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Pornography / eroticism and explicit sexual scenes should be allowed in video games.

Pornography / eroticism and explicit sexual scenes should be allowed in video games.

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[deleted]

They are allowed in video games, but video game companies also want children to play their games. Parents don't mind violence, it;s the sex that's bad.


[deleted]

My point exactly.


ProXJay

Think about nudity and sex in movies vs gore and violence in movies. Are you asking for Holywood to produce porn?


Beelzebubs_Solicitor

I am.


SlomoLowLow

There’s been a lot more cock shown in movies as of recent. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s seeing some titties was pretty cool. Anymore it’s just dudes hanging dong


TotalCuntrol

I think as children we are exposed to violence a lot more than sexuality. It's somehow not as shocking


[deleted]

You have no point. Go watch porn because you sound desperate.


[deleted]

Parents would rather show their kids death than life.


Pettylium

“Life” lol it’s kind of fucked up that you want children to see *fucking* *porn* at *gamestop* it’s disturbing as fuck


[deleted]

I think it’s better to show children porn at GameStop than a soldier stick his knife into another soldiers neck while the blood gushes out. But it’s best not show porn AND violence to children. But if we had to pick then it’s porn.


Pettylium

Nah it’s violence, violence, well it’s kind of “normalized” as you see it in movies that are like PG 13 while porn is not


[deleted]

So you’d rather show violence than porn?


Pettylium

YES and I bet around 90% of people would agree with me not his


thebee03

Actually, id almost disagree, as it has been shown that stimulation like porn and nudity actually helps the teenage brain develop and establish some norms. It would almost be more beneficial to show realistic normal sex in videogame than to rip out spines


Pettylium

“Realistic normal sex” *Excuse* *me* *what* *the* *fuck* There’s a reason video games that rip out spines are 18+. Also porn isn’t regular sex, it’s over dramatic over the top simulation of sex to make you horny, and we’re not talking teenagers, we were talking kids, between the ranges of 6-12 it’s still fucked up for teenagers to see porn on the daily where they’re trying to get a new game at GameStop, imagine one of those big ol’ posters advertising a new porn POV game. It’s disturbing and it honestly creeps me the fuck out that your so hyped like “Let’s show kids porn! We already show them violence so let’s just toss snuff films they’re way while we’re at it!”


laredditcensorship

video game companies also want children to play their gambling games. E for Everyone. [We live in a pretend society](https://pastebin.com/fYNfS7PM) & [everything is ok.](https://i.redd.it/x1yobfyt3wj31.png)


[deleted]

It's also what the actual gamer wants to play too though. I'm trying to play a game to have fun and explore and do crazy shit. If I want to see porn I'll look at porn. Keep that shit out of my games lol. I don't want neckbeard fantasy cutscenes popping up halfway through missions. That's super cringey.


BGgungame

>PC has porn games though but nothing triple A. Because there's no demand. Players don't really want to spend 60 bucks on a sex simulator when they could just turn Skyrim into one for free - BDSM and sex dungeons included. Now if Subverse turns out to be a huge success it might cause Triple A studios to consider sex games, but to the triple a developers making the most money and selling the most copies comes before anything else. So if the big studios don't see a sex game as something potentially successful they won't try and make it.


ReverendBelial

That's uh... the lewd XCOM-ish game yeah? ~~Edit: Well more like Darkest Dungeon actually, from what I recall.~~ Edit 2: Nope, I was right the first time, it's XCOM.


GodOfTitties

It's not really about making sex games; it's about the sex content in adult games. Sex and nudity when present tends to be heavily censored in video games, but extreme violence is supported. A perfect example would be gta. In gta you can commit all sorts of unreasonably violent and criminal acts such as entering a crowded street and blasting civilians with rocket launchers. But when it comes to sex, the best you get is a humping car and some moans!


BGgungame

Well here we, the players, have to ask ourselves the question: "What is more fun, a 15 minute graphic sex scene or 15 minutes of shooting a bazooka at the police?" Frankly I think sex scenes in games aren't that appealing because just watching porn has the same effect and you have a wider arrange of genres to chose from - you can watch what you like and picked yourself. And even if it's for a specific character form the game rule 34 has you covered and it'll provide a much better than what a gaming company would. Also a sex scene in a game is like a sex scene in a movie, it usually does little for the plot and it's not as memorable as a well written quest or other interactions.


lorarc

Because GTA is about violence not about sex. There are games about sex, if people actually wanted to play them it would be a huge market.


Kuupatin

A lot of marketing, loading screens and themes indicate that gta would be partially about sex


MrGreggle

There's also a pretty large number of stores that refuse to stock AO-rated games. I expect we'll continue to see a rise in them though as more and more sales move to digital platforms like we've seen with Steam's vast porn selection.


Kambz22

>Because there's no demand How do you know? Has there even been a quality sex game produced and marketed to the public? The comment about modding skyrim seems irrelevant to this though. The average person does not mod their games. So how do we know there isn't a demand for the average joe to want a game that's very sexual?


BGgungame

Well as I pointed out Subverse promises to be sex oriented, if it's hugely successful it means the average Joe wants it, if not then he doesn't want it.


[deleted]

Sensible opinion. I tend to agree with it for the most part.


SPEEDWEED42069420

Mortal kombat is a fighting game


shoesarejustok

OP wants Mortal kombat to be a sex game.


shucreamsundae

Mortal Kumbat


roleplayer98

What country do you live in where this is illegal?


jurassicbond

It's not that it's illegal (at least not in the US), but it's something that's more or less self regulated by the game industry as it would get an Adults Only rating for the game. The major console makers won't allow those on their consoles and major retailers won't carry them.


[deleted]

Except for shitty third party PC games, the PS4, Xbox, or Switch do not offer anything even remotely sexual. However, extreme violence is very easy to find. i.e Red Dead Redemption...GTA...any FPS...


Rowanx3

So its not illegal or banned, its just not supplied.


[deleted]

Nobody ever said it was illegal except for that dude above who has reading comprehension issues.


Rowanx3

You said ‘should be allowed’ they are allowed just no supplied. There’s nothing stopping anyone from making one


plsobeytrafficlights

op is full of it


loseit_or_loseit

They are already made in many cases, but only offered censored or not offered at all. At least in the case of visual novels. It’s usually game distributors like Steam that won’t publish them.


roleplayer98

So it is allowed.


[deleted]

Daft peep detected.


julian509

Good to see you found a mirror. No-one is preventing developers from making hardcore porn, but those developers want to make money, triple A hardcore porn games are not where the money is at. Porn is allowed in video games, your opinion doesn't need debating.


SadisticUnicorn

Games like The Witcher have plenty of sex


[deleted]

No. It has a few boobs in a few scenes. That's all.


69SRDP69

Heres a question, why are you so interested in this? Clearly it's not a matter of censorship.


SadisticUnicorn

There are multiple scenes where you have sex. Just because it doesn't show full penetration doesn't mean it isn't depicting sex.


[deleted]

It's very soft and not explicit. Light years away from dismembering people in Soldier of Fortune.


julian509

Have you heard of these wonderful sites called porn sites? Or the ~~beautiful~~ world of modding that can turn skyrim into the biggest sex dungeon you've never dreamed of?


[deleted]

it kinda is illegal for hentai games on the ps4 thanks to the new guidelines


Level_62

Not illegal, because that would require government legislation.


[deleted]

then just not allowed


TallRob76

What would a sex scene add to gameplay?


shoesarejustok

I only ever need sex in games so I can add more players to my colony/village/household. I don't care what it looks like or how it happens only that it results in more bodies.


[deleted]

Well aren't there already hentai games?


Watermelon482

Not trying to offend you or anything but this post kinda makes you seem like uh what's it called again? oh yeah a no-life weirdo.


unepicmanv

Neckbeard*


Watermelon482

Yeah that's better.


chaoslego44

Glad im not the only one who wanted see pixels having sex with eachother


[deleted]

So does everyone who has ever seen porn


plsobeytrafficlights

but you totally can already. it exists, no idea what OP is saying


[deleted]

OP is saying that we shouldn't be censoring video games to the extent that we are when it comes to sexual content l.


lorarc

It's not censorship, it's just noone creates triple A smut games. That is a very big difference.


[deleted]

have you not seen what Sony is doing to their games... They are very clearly censoring.


plsobeytrafficlights

censoring? i mean, i cant say i have heard of that outside of removing gore in australia, but i think they just label things pegi 18 or something now and its ok.


EAS893

They are allowed. They just get an AO rating instead of M. There's nothing illegal about them or anything like that. A lot of retailers won't carry AO games, so that's why a lot of companies don't want to make them.


ThePhireMan

Can't you get on Pornhub?


Sara_Matthiasdottir

He can't afford it


ThePhireMan

Oh ok, my bad


MrsB16

This is what I don’t get ...Just go onto pornhub...does everything have to include sex now ..?


polyjeans

just fuck a real person. try it out. it's almost like it's 3d or something


PowerPc2000

I don't really know why, but violence is definitely more acceptable than sex. I can't articulate the reason, but I'm totally comfortable watching a graphic war movie with my parents, but sex scenes are super uncomfortable.


[deleted]

I think it's easy to see why, sex/nudity scenes causes arousal/is meant to and they're not "fiction" in a sense that someone getting stabbed in the neck in a movie is fake/fiction but the nudity is all real and while penetration isn't actually happening dry humping is definitely going on. It's basically like you're watching soft porn with your parents. The gore/action is all entertainment and not awkward like the soft porn.


Azeuka

I dont want a hard on while gaming. It would be annoying and i'm personally glad pornography / eroticism isn't really in games


SpaceGuyRob

Some games do have quite a bit of sex or references to it, but for the most part I'd say most people don't really care about that in their games, so they aren't made. Its just a demand thing.


jurassicbond

Steam has some adults only game. Maybe something there is what you're looking for.


[deleted]

This example is stated in my original post.


jurassicbond

I don't see anything about Steam in your original post.


[deleted]

Steam = PC.


jurassicbond

Nothing about PC games in your original post.


[deleted]

You're absolutely right. Sorry.


[deleted]

r/justneckbeardthings


whistlepig33

They are allowed. Its just that the market for them isn't as big.


[deleted]

They are.


-TheWinterSoldier-

I thought one of the Call of Duty games had one skipable sex scene or a scene where a woman seduced a man on a bed? And in Fallout there are hookers and I think you can have sex as well.


[deleted]

You can't see shit. In fallout sex scenes are a joke.


-TheWinterSoldier-

Aight, calm down bruh


PrrrromotionGiven1

I think VR hentai games exist now, which is probably the closest you can get to what you describe.


greythicv

did you play the witcher 3?


[deleted]

I think it’s good. Small children could buy it and be exposed too early. And before you say “ratings” that makes no difference. So many parents ignore the ratings and buy their kid the game Bloody Mc Sex Scene and then becomes Genghis Khan.


[deleted]

It's less so not allowed and more so no triple A developer wants to waste resources on sex scenes instead of things they're passionate about. Rockstar doesn't want to animate a full graphic sex scene because they're not porn directors and prefer making other things, same with any other game developer that makes violent games.


Pinkpanda08

So you want to just cut halfway through in say call of duty to watch two animated dudes have sex? I’m sure you can find it elsewhere.


John_R_SF

Assassin's Creed Origins incorporated sex but did so humorously. For example, the threesome with a goat. You can have sex with lots of people in that game: male/female, male/male, female/female. Witcher 3 had some sex scenes too, especially in the bordello. These weren't just gratuitous, though, they advanced the story in the game. If it helps the story, I'm all for it. If it's just gratuitous, why bother. I don't want to see people fucking in between levels of PacMan for example.


Waluigi-For-Smash-

Porn in games is already allowed, it’s just that no one would play them, so devs don’t make them. If you want porn, just watch porn.


[deleted]

Just go to the strip club in GTA like the rest of us 14 year olds (Sarcasm, please dont kill me)


BurgerKiller433

I'm a teen. I don't have my own room. If my mom would even hear the word fuck I would get grounded


[deleted]

that is fucked up OH SHIT


Alantuktuk

It is allowed already.


[deleted]

Name one PS4, Xbox or Switch game in which you can see a penetration.


Alantuktuk

Oh you’re a console peasant... never mind.


[deleted]

I also game on PC. Oh, you're a peasant who only has a PC... never mind.


Alantuktuk

So stop your whining


[deleted]

I know it hurts when you get roasted so brutally. You okay there bud?


Cayde6-best-vangaurd

ironic since you're the one getting down voted to shit


gifsquad

everyone here sucks acshually


[deleted]

The point of video games, for ME anyway, is to do things that I can't IRL. I can just go fuck someone IRL, why would I pay for a game to fake it? \(-_-)/


unepicmanv

Well, that is for you...


[deleted]

Yes, that is what I said.


ImAGoat42069

Wtf


[deleted]

?


Super-Soyuz

But OP those are just hentai games


[deleted]

Just watch porn you sad animal.


2ndshepard

I also want to penetrate reptile in game. Then rip out his spine afterwards


[deleted]

Perfectly fine in my book.


2ndshepard

I just want to feel his cool, scaly booty against my hips while I nut inside him


[deleted]

Fine in my book as well.


SHaolin_BaBy666

Yeah, Consoles banned anything over +M ratings, so it probably couldn’t happen anyway.


MysteriousMrL0L

GTA San Andreas did. And then the media ripped Rockstar Studios a new one for it.


lorarc

They wouldn't have it happen to them if they released that as AO title and it was known to contain it from the beginning.


MysteriousMrL0L

This was so long ago and I dont feel like fact checking but didn't they release it as an AO title and M title? The problem was that the M title had the animations but it was only accessible by hacking. You couldn't experience "hot coffee" through normal M rated gameplay.


lorarc

According to Wikipedia ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot\_Coffee\_mod#Product\_re-rating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Coffee_mod#Product_re-rating)) it was rated M, bumped to AO after the hot coffee controversy and then re-released as M without the content. But even if you had to download the mod to make it AO the content was still there. People wouldn't care that much if AO game had more AO stuff hidden in it.


[deleted]

yeah. I remember. That was a stupid thing.


LittleOne281991

It's got a similar vibe to the "free the nipple" movement for women who breastfeed or want to be topless and that's it is so ingrained into our current generation as being too sexual. It's still a taboo subject and our generation will not desensitize/normalize it by the time we die but if we teach our kids that it is normal behavior slowly the next generations will no longer see it at taboo or sexual. Also many games don't have the need to include sexual themes because there is no high demand for it. The games that are made for sexual fun are shoddy or online only because console games want to be family friendly, there reps would be ruined if they allowed a full sexual scene play out. Violence is all around us so it is easy to desensitize to it and consider it normal, sex on the other hand is done in privacy and not as prevalent in real life so it is harder to normalize it.


[deleted]

Yes they should, on PC. I can understand it being not allowed on consol


plsobeytrafficlights

they totally already exist, so no problems.


AutistChan

The people who are really complaining are the dumb Karens who let their 10 year old play m rated games


MundayChewsdee

Striking Vipers anyone?


Laptop46

I think that they’re afraid of getting the extreme backlash they could get from something like that. Remember GTA:San Andreas and the hot coffee mod. That shit almost put the rating up to AO until they completely removed it from the game. Any time that a developer may think of adding a feature, they must make sure it doesn’t put them in the AO range.


BadAmazingDarkNight

I don’t really give a shit. There’s not really any point for graphic sex scenes in games unless the writers somehow tie it into the story and it’s necessary, and while sometimes sex can be a good indication two characters love each other, (therefore making it necessary) it can be done with a simple fade to black or something like Witcher 3. It’ll just feel shoehorned to be honest.


_fat_anime_tiddies_

They are off of console, but I agree.


ScrambledToast

I agree with the main point of this post. There's no real moral argument you can make for normalizing sex in media when violence is normalized. Or at least, I haven't heard a good argument for why violence is fine but sex isn't.


Potato-Demon

It seems like this is also the case for movies and TV shows. Anything with any remotely sexual content, including dirty jokes gets an r rating.


Dassive_Mick

> Why is it that I can remove the spinal cord of a dude and strangle a character with it in Mortal Kombat but I can't softly and tenderly penetrate one of those characters with my penis? Revolutionary.


divingenthusiast

Ok Australia


Matt1050

Because stupid people think video games are only for kids. Meanwhile game of thrones is about magic and knights and dragons (like most fairy tales told to little kids) but can be considered "adult" because it's a TV show not a game. Close minded people suck


[deleted]

Spoken like a true Gamer😎👌


laisanity2000

Eroges my friend, *eroges*


Bezoomny-dama

Sounds like you need to get laid, dude.


Super-Soyuz

But i play a tank game


Cippledtimmy

Tank sex is cool


ramtax666

"Finish him"


[deleted]

Haha yep, my kind of finish.


[deleted]

I remember that my classmate once said Baraka had rape fatality in MKII that worked only on women. He had an imagination.


Woody_Harryishson

The question you're really asking here is: Why does society view the depiction of sex and nudity to be worse than violence? And when you think about it, it should be the other way around. Why isnt it? You could probably write an entire paper on the subject. But I agree, I'd be more happy if it was flip flopped.


CreativeGiaton

Yep. Games made for adult audiences and rated as such should have more adult content.


[deleted]

Society has a lot of irrational hangups about sex that are almost never questioned (even when you think they are - you are wrong).


LennyRaisk

Cumbrain


GonsBootyShorts

Cumbrian


[deleted]

Two women kissing is the cuttest thing in the world The softness of their lips, body and skin. Their amazing scent. The taboo aspect of it. If feels so forbidden and wrong but yet so hot, exciting and new. Even "straight" girls cannot escape the enticing Nature of it. It's their top fantasy that they can't wait to experiment one day. Guys go crazy over bi girls. They see them as precious gems. Society grew to love lesbianism, we can see all around us in movies, erotica novels, music and ad campaigns. I don't think girls should limit their sexuality and fulfillment to guys only. They should broaden their horizons.


My_Shitty_Alter_Ego

I understand what you're saying. I feel like I might be the only one. Why isn't sex part of realism in open world games? Why is it more acceptable to commit violence against someone than to engage in lovemaking? I've often wondered this.