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Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu replaced, opposition leader officially informed the President. Naftali Bennett will be the new PM of Israel with Yair Lapid in rotation. First coalition ever with an Arab party.

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu replaced, opposition leader officially informed the President. Naftali Bennett will be the new PM of Israel with Yair Lapid in rotation. First coalition ever with an Arab party.

VolatileEnthusiasm

The title is inaccurate, Netanyahu hasn’t been replaced yet, Lapid only informed the President that he assembled a government but the Knesset has to vote for the government first


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the_alchemist1337

its still kinda not official,if someone from yamina party,votes against it in the kneeset,he wont replace bibi,but doubt it would happen


Tonmber1

Joint List leader says if that happens they will vote for the coalition to oust Bibi https://twitter.com/MeyerLabin/status/1400151980631285763?s=20


Comfortable-Wrap-723

That is the best thing for Israel.


Raptorpicklezz

Only as long as the centre-left elements of the coalition drown out Bennett. Remember, he's a settler leader and more extreme than Netanyahu, and is just making this uncharacteristic move because Bibi has finally run out of bridges to burn. Oh, and of course, because he wants #thatPOWER


DukeOfGeek

Does anyone expect this new government to last long? Like just long enough for prosecution of Netanyahu then expect it to collapse?


RheumatoidEpilepsy

Given that that decided on having the PM role on rotation they might be willing to compromise with the left on a long term. Or they'll just oust Bibi and then form a coalition with Likud, you never know.


sinkwiththeship

I truly do not understand how Israel's government works, apparently.


Sherm

> Given that that decided on having the PM role on rotation they might be willing to compromise with the left on a long term. They did the same thing last time, just with Netanyahu going first. He used it to play for time, then blew up the government once it ran out. The second Bibi is out of the picture permanently, this government falls apart.


SecantDecant

They'll probably oust Netanyahu, implement term and indictment limits then collapse.


c0ldgurl

Seems like a quality use of their shortened existence.


Keman2000

...I mean, that sounds good to me. Essentially political enemies temporarily uniting to prevent further abuse. I like it.


vishnoo

Not even. As soon as a law is passed that an indicted politician can not be prime minister


bilyl

I find it funny how there’s always these deals with rotating PMs, just like last time with Gantz. What makes anyone think coalition governments last long enough for the second PM to take charge? This coalition will last as long as Netanyahu is still a free man. The moment he is in jail then there will be fresh elections.


CalmAndBear

1-2 years, then another round of elections This bennet guy is way above his lague, it al depends on his performance really.


tyriet

Also remember that Israeli politics is strongly based on a secular vs religious axis. As far as that is concerned, Bennett is fairly moderate. He's more of an ethnic-nationalist. Furthermore it's part of the coalition deal to halt settlement construction, a change to the former "no new ones but construction in the legal ones" of the Netanyahu-led coalition


IMJorose

>Remember, he's a settler leader and more extreme than Netanyahu So how come the Arab party joined the coalition?


beardlessdick

Ra’am, the Arab party joining the coalition, campaigned on the idea of greater involvement by Arabs in government and advancing Arab interests in general. He negotiated with Netanyahu as well. An Arab party has never been a part of a governing coalition so this is a big step towards having their voices heard.


AGVann

Ra'am will have a greater influence on politics as a coalition party that Bennett will have to keep happy, than as a marginalised opposition voice. MMP systems are a process of negotiation and compromise where small parties can be 'kingmakers', because ruling governments must have the support of at least 50% of the parliament to retain power. Very few MMP parties are large enough to rule on their own, since the system encourages smaller parties with more specialised interests than one large monolith like Democrats and Republicans in the US. And so they often need to woo smaller parties onto their side by promising policy or cabinet appointments. If the supporting coalition partners feel that they aren't being treated right, then can retract support and trigger a new election.


SupremePooper

Let us hope that the power of "coalition" suffices to keep Bennett from being the psychopath he truly us.


Simbawitz

^ now that's amazing! And the rest of Labin's thread is important too.


SeeShark

To those who don't want to read a Twitter thread, basically the head of the Joint List (Arab "big tent" party, mostly left-wing) said they'll back up the new coalition if needs be, *and furthermore* that he's hopeful that there is a real opportunity right now to strive for a two-state solution with both self-determination and full civil rights for both peoples.


Raptorpicklezz

He's bluffing then. He knows full well that will never happen as long as Naftali "As long as I have any power and control, I won't hand over one centimetre of land of the Land of Israel, period" Bennett is in charge. The best we can ask for is a continuation of the status quo


jakethepeg1989

Ariel Sharon was the most right wing political leader at the time and he ended up withdrawing all the settlements from Gaza. Not saying Bennett will do anything similar, but sometimes it takes the hardliners to change.


jmcs

"Only Nixon could go to China".


Modal_Window

Sharon was an interesting guy, it's a shame his health didn't allow it.


ForeverAclone95

Now that some of the settler groups have threatened Bennett and his colleagues’ lives he might be more willing to throw them under the bus. He lives in Ra’anana after all and already agreed to a settlement freeze in the coalition agreement. He’s probably lying about that but politics makes for strange bedfellows. Even after everything that’s happened more Israelis want a two state solution than not


SnuggleMuffin42

> Naftali "As long as I have any power and control, I won't hand over one centimetre of land of the Land of Israel, period" Bennett That's Naftali "Made a written promise on live TV, signed by myself, to never ever let Lapid become Prime Minister, even with a rotation agreement" Bennet to you pal. Unrelatedly, the agreement signed tonight was a rotation government with Lapid as alternate PM for two years, then him taking the gavel afterwards as PM.


Davidfreeze

Unless he doesn’t believe Naftali will be prime minister long because of how fragile the coalition is so he’s willing to take it to oust Bibi.


bombayblue

12 days. So the chances of Bibi becoming prime minister are still around 50%.


NerimaJoe

Never count Bibi out. Slippery as an eel. A premature declaration of victory from the opposition parties is probably exactly what he wants to hear. Really they should be locking any suspect MPs away in hotels incommunicado until the vote in 12 days.


bombayblue

I’ve always joked that everytime he’s about to go under he just starts showing MP’s photos of their kids walking to school until they get the message.


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Honestly, after seeing some interviews of the new guy speaking to the press he is fucking unhinged in a way that makes Netanyahu look downright pleasant


NerimaJoe

He only has to last long enough to get Bibi in the dock and facing those corruption charges. Then this whole coalition that's held together by nothing other than being anti-Netanyahu can crumble to pieces. And nothing of value will have been lost.


SnuggleMuffin42

It's like 3% lmao He needs multiple people to defect. The leader of another Arab party said he'll vote for the government if there is one extra defector (he's currently questionable), but he has 3 party members total so you need 3 defectors... I don't know where Bibi finds them.


TellurideTeddy

Is this like how Trump will be reinstalled to the Presidency in August?


bombayblue

It’s a joke about how Bibi always seems to end up being prime minister.


not_a_bot__

And it’s a fair joke, unlike trump Netanyahu has held onto power for over a decade now


fellasheowes

Actually around 12 years, and 15 if you count his first stint as pm from 96-99.


wlea

Yeah I remember reading about him in *Time For Kids* in 5th grade. I'm in my mid-30s now. He's been around *forever*.


J-Team07

He has been PM is Israel longer than Thatcher was PM of Britain.


matinthebox

He's the longest serving PM in Israel's history


Michchaal

is Bibi Netanyahu, or are they two separate people.. sorry for ignorance and not googling it


wlea

Bibi is the nickname for Benjamin, so yes, when people say Bibi they mean Netanyahu.


Raspberries-Are-Evil

Plenty of time for Bibi to start a war!


MavenACTG

Let's see what happens in 12 days.


adidasbdd

So safe to assume there will be an escalation of violence or attack of some sort this week.


SuperStarPlatinum

I in 10 days there will be a very convenient Hamas attack to sink the deal.


Buscemis_eyeballs

>Hamasaki Is that like the Japanese hamas?


SuperStarPlatinum

Autocorrupt strikes again


Comfortable-Wrap-723

and in his way to jail


oberon

We can hope! Even better would be a trial at the Hague, followed by jail.


SeeShark

I don't think even left-wing Israelis would agree to a trial at the Hague, because of the one-sidedness of not prosecuting (or, usually, even investigating) Hamas by the international community. However, every last left-wing Israeli wants to see him in jail, which honestly is more meaningful than an international slap on the wrist anyway.


seeasea

wouldn't that simply be a pro forma?


birdgovorun

Not at all. There are huge efforts on Bibi's part to convince some Yamina MKs to not vote for the new government. If any one of them votes against — this government won't be formed. Specifically there is a huge question mark around Nir Orbach's vote at the moment.


stsk1290

Aren't they the ones who stand to benefit the most? Seeing how Bennett is set to become PM?


birdgovorun

The problem is that they are ideologically opposed to some of the parties that are supposed to be in the coalition with them, and so have to compromise on various key issues. For some MKs such a compromise might feel like too much. Many on the right already see Bennett as someone who betrayed his voters.


Demeno

Probably, but who knows...


yusufl61

Will it pass?


VolatileEnthusiasm

The moment the agreements were signed they had the majority of The Knesset’s support. It will be a few days before the Knesset gets to vote for the new government, and the head of the Knesset is a member of Netanyahu’s party so he may try to delay that vote. The biggest problem is if one of Bennett’s Yamina Party’s members decides to vote against the new Gpvernment because of pressure from the right. One of them already did a few weeks ago so the new government only has the support of 61 out of 120 MKs, and even one member leaving would be a major problem.


Capcuck

The Joint List ("the arab party") is looking likely to vote in favor so that's a huge safety net.


Theinternationalist

Assuming of course the Yamina member is not pulled back, or that no one outside the current proposed coalition is pulled in. Still, you can see why people are on edge.


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redeyedstranger

> so unless something really drastic, and I mean REALLY drastic happens... inb4 Bibi nukes Iran or does something equally outlandish just to stay in power and out of jail.


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vinidiot

> I have suspicions that the last escelation with hamas was to put pressure on bennet not to form a coalition without him. Well yeah, that seemed rather transparent from the outside. A rather conveniently timed little conflict to poison the political well.


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cthulhusleftnipple

> I have suspicions that the last escelation with hamas was to put pressure on bennet not to form a coalition without him. Nah. It's just *total coincidence* that fighting was started later the same day that a collation government agreement was announced.


Bacon_Devil

Thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills for a second.


isaacfisher

Still, its a big deal.


MrIdiot-san

while Bennett is more extreme than Bibi, this government isn't. And the government structure matters in Israeli politics not just who's in charge. It has extreme left, extreme right, centrist, moderates and even an Arab party.


SeeShark

Notably, the Arab party *is* extreme right, but they also have the conditional support of the left-wing Arab parties in the event that a right-wing party leaves the coalition and threatens the prospects of getting rid of Bibi.


CriticoolHit

Narrator: "As you can imagine, this led to issues"


as-well

Israeli politics is just all issues tho. Too many parties representing specific communities or ideas to enable simple coalitions. At least this time the coalition has a clear internal adversary they want to keep from power.


londons_explorer

I always assumed that internally a coalition effectively traded votes/points between its members. Ie. Imagine we have the pirate party (who want copyright reform) and the anti-abortion party. When a vote about copyright comes up, the pirate party uses all its points to steer the coalition in its favoured direction. For all other votes the pirate party just saves it's points and does as everyone else says.


as-well

That's not usually a helpful way to think of coalitions, first of all because votes are initiated by the coalition itself, but also because coalitions tend to be constant negotiations or, alternatively, somehow determining which party has the lead on which issues and the other one staying silent on those (e.g. the Austrian conservative-Green coalition right now)


Necessary_Quarter_59

Forgive my ignorance as I’m not well researched in Israel’s political system, but in which way is the Arab party considered extreme right? Are they more socially conservative? Nationalistic and therefore pro-Israel when it comes to the conflict? Or something else I haven’t considered?


MoreGaghPlease

They are the party that represents the Islamist movement in Israel, originally an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Which in theory means they want a Muslim Theocracy to replace the government. But that’s overly simplistic. In practice, Ra’am is a pretty pragmatic party that tries to represent the interests of its constituency, which is primarily Arab Muslim citizens of Israel who live in the centre/south. (There is a different Islamist party that appeals more the those who live in the Galilee region)


gbbmiler

To add to this: the Joint List is a conglomerate of the rest of the Arab parties, which are mostly center-left leaning. Raam has 4 seats in the Knesset, the Joint List has 6 IIRC.


chitowngirl12

Didn't Ra'am used to be part of the Joint List but split off because Bibi was going to use them to cling to power? And then it blew up in his face because his partners are racist loons. Oh and Abbas probably double-crossed Bibi to get a better deal with Lapid in the first place.


DMVcapital

The Arab right wing parties don’t like gays, women, secular society and civil rights generally. Basically same social positions as almost all the Arab parties in the West Bank and Gaza.


Necessary_Quarter_59

So extremely socially conservative but not nationalistic/pro-israel in relation to the conflict?


MoreGaghPlease

Left right politics don’t work in Israel because you have more poles. Religion and ethnicity are in the mix alongside other more traditional left-right factors. This coalition involves: a far-right non-Haredi but Orthodox party, a centrist secular party, a right-wing secular party that appeals mostly to immigrants who came from the Soviet Union, an Arab party that mostly appeals to Muslims from souther Israel, and the traditional secular left and centre-left parties. Israel uses strict proportional representation which encourages lots of niche parties to start up. Like they don’t have anything like congressional districts, everyone votes in a national election and if a party gets 30% of votes they get 30% of the seats. There are pros and cons to this system but I think it’s probably better for a country that is geographically very small but has very disparate groups living in close proximity to each other


KaesekopfNW

And it should be noted that the Knesset uses a pretty low threshold, as parliamentary systems go, so all it takes is 3.25% of the vote to get seats. That's also up from 2% not that long ago, which is certainly an improvement. It creates a lot of small parties. For comparison, most other countries with the same type of system use 4-5% (like Germany or New Zealand), though there are others that use similarly low or even lower thresholds.


Conservitard9824

>This coalition involves: a far-right non-Haredi but Orthodox party, a centrist secular party, a right-wing secular party that appeals mostly to immigrants who came from the Soviet Union, an Arab party that mostly appeals to Muslims from souther Israel, and the traditional secular left and centre-left parties. Name a better cross over. I'll wait.


cc-d

Yugoslavia.


DMVcapital

Marshal Tito thanks you for your service


By_Design_

["This government has everything, a far-right non-Haredi but Orthodox party, a centrist secular party, a right-wing secular party that appeals mostly to immigrants who came from the Soviet Union, an Arab party that mostly appeals to Muslims from souther Israel, and the traditional secular left and centre-left parties."](https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/SNL-Stefon-Bill-Hader.png)


DMVcapital

Nationalistic in that they’d love to see a Pan-Arab ethnostate and/or Islamic theocracy in the Middle East.


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Dr_seven

Ironically, many of the the same social positions as Likud. It's painfully ironic how much the two have in common.


phrostbyt

I'd argue that Ra'am is closer to the Arab Shas than Likud


BrutusTheLiberator

I mean maybe much of the same social positions of the far right allies of the Likud-led coalition. But Likud itself is nowhere near as culturally regressive as Ra’am. Closer to Joint List on cultural issues since both have a pretty broad array of cultural views from their MKs.


TheStonkmanCometh

Extremely socially conservative (as are most Arab Muslims) and very nationalist.


Ihabk

Not nationalist at all. They are the party of the Islamic Movement here. And for the record, they don't represent all of the Arabs, and most of us don't want to be part of this government, which includes Mr "let's kick out hundreds of thousands of Arabs from Israel" Lieberman, "I've killed a lot of Arabs, there is no problem with that" soon to be prime minister Bennet, Mrs "... Should kill mothers before they give birth to more Arabs" Ayelet Shaked, and many more.


cth777

Probably in the same way most Arab countries are far right


LimitedWard

Sounds like the windup to joke where they all walk into a bar.


Dark_Shade_75

Just so people don't get their hopes up *too* far though, here's a quote from Israel's newest PM: "I will do everything in my power to make sure they never get a state." In regards to Palestinians. [Source.](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/01/21/the-party-faithful)


IVIUAD-DIB

if you're going to quote someone, you should reference the date they said it. - 2013 It's just good form.


Dark_Shade_75

Something tells me a statement like that doesn't have an expiration date, but sure. Besides, I linked the source with the info.


kieko

I'm not going to speak to Bennet's motives and whether they may have changed, but I wouln't outright dismiss the changing over the years. Take a look at Ariel Sharon who was seen in the past as a hawk and strong armed towards the Palestinians. He then orchestrated the unilateral disengagement from Gaza. People can change their views. Even extreme ones.


MrLoadin

It's weird you pointed out he orchestrated the unilateral disengagement, but didn't mention he was also the one who iniated the military operation they needed to disengage from... He also explicitly ensured Israel controlled the airspace and coastline, so all the access, and kept it prior to disengagement. Why on earth would that show support for the Palestinians vs Israel completed it's military objectives and left?


SamBradfordSuperFan

The statement does have a context though. Arab Spring happened very recently around that time and Israel was afraid of an uprising.


colossalboom

Lol! "good form" Naftali Bennett: ‘I’ve Killed Lots Of Arabs In My Life And There’s No Problem With That’


MentalSpring

Yeah, but *when* did he say that? /S just in case


MenAtRest

Yeah I'm sure they definitely have changed lol


leopardnation10

None of this matters anyway. The government will not stay intact for very long after they conduct their big anti-Bibi vote. Then Israel will go to fifth elections and it will be back to left vs right again.


Capt_Easychord

Well, hopefully it will stay intact long enough through Bibi's trial.


isaacfisher

The big issue IMO is to move Netanyahu out of PM office. He is the one that benefits from this on going elections cycle


hello_worrld

I'm sure even "the Arabs" have sub-factions, ranging extreme left to extreme right. Unless I'm mistaken. Do they have a general position?


TScottFitzgerald

Did you read the article? Yes, there's multiple Arab parties across the political spectrum, and many of them are basically mergers between smaller parties as is usual for most Israel's parties, so many of them tend to be big tent. There's no "they" or "the Arabs", they organise into political parties like everyone else. The four major Arab parties recently merged into an alliance called the Joint List. They vary from centre-left to communist/socialist. However, the ruling coalition is being formed with another Arab party Ra'am. This party is a merger of smaller parties as well, so it's big tent but definitely conservative and is currently led by Islamists. It used to be in the Joint List but left a few months ago before the elections and got some relatively good results.


TheStonkmanCometh

Eh. The Arab extreme left is only economically left. They are all pretty much very socially conservative.


MoreGaghPlease

Yes there are a bunch of Arab parties. Two main Islamist parties and one main secular one. Lots of Arabs in Israel also vote for Hadash, which is the Israeli communist party and identifies as neither Arab nor Jewish. Meterz and Labour, which are left wing Zionist parties, have also historically had a fair bit of Arab support. And there are a couple Druze towns in Northern Israel that tend to go Likud.


IVIUAD-DIB

yes that's what happens with large populations. diversity is the basis for life itself.


No-Acanthocephala-22

It really matters not what its composition is, or how well they interact with one another. The first crucial step is securing a budget. The second is limiting terms to 2. The third is making the legal system more resilient and prevent indicted politicians from running for certain posts like PM. After that, they can disassemble after creating a stronger basis for a government and prevented further abuses like Netanyahu's.


NolaSpur

There will probably be another general election early next year. I don’t see this coalition staying together.


zackit

Once that crook Netanyahu is gone, it really doesn't matter.


garlicroastedpotato

With Netanyahu out of the picture Bennett can swallow up all of his support and do what he wants to do.


guszi

>Bennett can swallow up all of his support This is honestly as far away from reality as can be. Netanyahu's voters are as firm as they go, they all hate Bennett with passion now. Bennet himself is not a very popular politician, always hopping between his 'far-right clown' and 'get things done' personas, and he has a lot to prove. And now, well, he can't play the 'inflammatory populist' role from his position - his success relies on proving he is the opposite.


chitowngirl12

Bennett finally broke-up with Netanyahu. He can't undo what he did and I'm assuming that the death threats and threats against his family have turned him completely against Bibi. So it seems like guy who wants to be a sort of pragmatic, modern problem solver finally won out. And he has the most to prove out of the deal because his only way forward in politics is to show the vast majority of Israeli voters that he is an adult statesman because he's burnt his bridges completely with Netanyahu. I bet that he and Sa'ar will end up merging their parties in the next election. And I'm assuming that Netanyahu will be banned from running again for PM with term limits. So Likud will have to choose a new leader. The issue is that Bibi pretty much destroyed or chased out anyone who isn't a hardcore Bibi sycophant.


DownvoteALot

With this, Bennett basically lost what little support he had left on the right. It's unsure who would replace Bibi as the leader of the right if he doesn't run again (unlikely unless he is convicted or a law prevents him from running) but Bennett is very unlikely at this point.


garlicroastedpotato

These parties are super flexible. Netanyahu had what 9 different parties in his coalitions over the years? People just want power.


DownvoteALot

Sure, problem is who would vote for him? He used to have some traditionalists, some religious Zionists and maybe the capitalists. After this move, he has no base left and he's at an all-time low in the polls. And I don't think his time as rightist PM in a parity coalition with the left will bring anything to brag about. Time will tell but I don't think that's his plan here. Likudniks hate him right now, he made their king fall.


zackit

Nope. He has center and left parties to answer to. In all honesty, I believe we are headed towards another round of elections, but at least Netanyahu is out of the game.


garlicroastedpotato

He has centre and left parties to answer to right now. That changes when the government dissolves.


zackit

If and when that government dissolves, I don't know if Bennett manages to make it past another round of elections. There are other rightwing cuckoo's out there though.


jerdygerd

Honestly, nobody in likud can really replace Bibi due to how Bibi alienated every competent politician. Gantz and Saar are both right wing, and Bennet is farther right, but likudniks hate them now for daring to go against Bibi. I honestly think Likud will collapse if Bibi is not allowed to run, and I just hope those votes dont go to Smotrich.


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Theinternationalist

Israel and governmental stability go together like peanut butter and gasoline. If it lasts past next June it will have already beaten the current government in terms of lifespan.


WazWaz

I imagine peanut butter, being lipid based, would mix quite easily with gasoline. I wouldn't eat or run a car on the mixture though...


Theinternationalist

And I guess this is why I'm not a chemist.


Aj_Caramba

Or peanut butter maker.


SeeShark

Israel's been pretty stable for decades. It's really only the last couple of years.


deathtotheemperor

A left-wing/right-wing/Islamist/Zionist coalition is, uhh, not exactly what I was expecting out of all of this.


Necessary_Quarter_59

Looks like a functioning democracy to me, every group gets at least some representation.


Ballsohardstate

There are too many differing interest groups this coalition will go away after the law that bars Bibi from office passes. I’d be very surprised to see it be a long term coalition just because they wouldn’t be able to get anything done as there is almost no overlap between all parties involved.


IntellectualsOnly7

Coalitions are meant to be formed by likeminded parties all wanting similar goals for the country. This coalition is made up of a bunch of people who under different circumstances would vote against each other on every issue and only has one goal of ousting the current government.


Phipol

That's absolutely not set in stone - Switzerland was governed for decades by a similar 'everyone bands together' form of a coalition from all sides of the spectrum.


IMovedYourCheese

Every group should have representation in the government, but every group can't simultaneously run the government. That will just lead to chaos.


JasonTParker

The headline is a little premature. Bibi hasn't been replaced yet Lapid (leader of the opposition) is simply informing the president that he has the votes to do it. We will see if his absurdly large tent coalition can hold together.


god_im_bored

Lapid is the biggest winner in all this. If it goes through he gets all the credit for dethroning Netanyahu and almost none of the blame when Yamina blows this coalition up (which they are 100% going to do; they almost ended it all before even getting to this point by insisting on keeping the right to bulldoze Bedouin homes) Not to mention (and I know that Reddit isn’t going to like this part), Likud did get the most seats which is almost twice that of Yesh Atid so any coalition without them is just dumb and liable to break down.


JasonTParker

The problem is Bibi has a long history of backstabbing the leaders of many of the other parties. I mean the whole reason this recent election happened is that he broke his rotation deal with Gantz. So they don't want to make a deal with him.


yav1231111

First coalition since 1977 to include an Arab party. Before 1977, Arab parties were routinely included in Israeli government coalitions


TransGerman

The article stares that it is “the first coalition deal ever signed by an Arab party” but I found out that the first Knesset had an Arab party as part of the coalition. Was it really normal before 77? That would surprise me


Predictor92

>he first coalition deal ever signed by an Arab party” but I found out that the first Knesset had an Arab party as p satellite parties, in 1973 their was the Arab List for Bedouin and Villagers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab\_List\_for\_Bedouin\_and\_Villagers


jonyprepperisrael

No its not true,until 79' arabs parties were in the coallitions. Granted,they were pretty much the arab versions of jewish parties,like how the list of Nazreth was an extension of Mapai. But they were still arab parties.


TransGerman

Yes that’s right, I found that out only after someone pointed it out in the comments. For some reason the article says it’s the first time.


Gremel

1 member of the Knesset of this new government voting against it will tear everything apart, there is still a few days before it will happen and there's crazy pressure on certain representatives with protests outside their houses


Jaxster37

Except the Joint List has said they'd be willing to provide support if there are any defections.


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jimbo831

> 1 member of the Knesset of this new government voting against it will tear everything apart [Not true](https://twitter.com/meyerlabin/status/1400151980631285763?s=21)


abotez

Our joint list to the rescue 💪 my fellow liberal Arab party declared that they will support the coalition if anybody backs down


AnoruosLoL

I'm not a fan of bennett either but as long as he is in a coalition with a center-left majority he can't do too much harm. That being said, even if this government is disfunctional it's a success in my eyes, it finally got rid of a corrupt PM who was willing to start wars for political gain and would sell every single one of his voters for another day in charge, we can finally move to a new chapter in our history, which hopefully is a more peaceful one.


sdsanth

Can't agree more!! Let's hope for the best!!


BattlerinoBaster

Hold on, there is still a 2 week limit to call the vote and make it offical, and currently there are still some minor disagreements, two MKs are fighting over being the head of the committiee that elects judges and the arab party demands to repeal a building permit law that right wingers don't want to give up. Seems like they can smoothe things over, but with them needing every single one of their 61 MKs, and with Netanyahu on desperation mode, this can fall apart.


VolatileEnthusiasm

The disagreement about the Judge Selection Committee was resolved - Shaked will be on the committee for the first two years and then Michaeli.


CobbsGuy

a misleading headline?!?! shocking


Duckpoke

I’ve seen this episode a few times. Will believe Bibi is gone when I see it with my own eyes


very_excited

Holy crap after over a decade it's finally happened, Netanyahu's reign over Israel is finally coming to an end. Thank God. Imagine being such a divisive, hated figure that you somehow managed to unite the left, center, and right to join together in a unity government just to oust you as Prime Minister. Trump wasn't even able to accomplish that.


ntbananas

Not to mention getting Islamists to support an Orthodox PM...


mr47

Bennet is not orthodox at all. Religious, yes - but far from orthodox.


xland44

In israel, jews are divided into three main categories: Haredi (ultra orthodox) - the people in black clothing, black brimmed hats, beards, etc. Dati (orthodox) - always wearing kippas (this is where bennet is) Hiloni - everyone else


mr47

I appreciate your feedback, but as someone who lives here, I can assure you that nobody in Israel would call Bennet orthodox, except for maybe US expats - as based on the other comments, it seems that Americans have different definitions of orthodoxality.


xland44

אח שלי אני גם ישראלי בנט נחשב דתי Edit for english speakers: im from israel too bro, he's orthodox lol


mr47

דתי - בוודאי, אורתודוקס - לא.


goldenj04

By American standards he’d be called modern orthodox. He’s not Charedi, but that’s not what the comment said.


russellzerotohero

We just didn’t give him enough time haha


whitethunder9

>Trump wasn't even able to accomplish that. To his credit, he tried really fucking hard


LeftZer0

More than a decade. Likud, his party, has been a major player in Israeli politics since the 80s, and Netanyahu was first elected PM in 95, right after Rabin, the guy he called for the death of, was assassinated.


tersers

No one: “Avengers Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history” Israel: “Hold my goldstar”


avifoo

That title is editorialized.


Dismal-Philosopher-4

This is a coalition of everyone-but-Likud, a wild party indeed and they will need strong communication to keep it together. But wish them all the best.


avacadosaurus

I love that legalizing cannabis is part of this


yellowbloodil

It is? I missed that. Lapid had some memorable quotes about the subject, something along the lines of "I'm against legalization of cannabis because it's not legal"...


m_lyn

There it is. I have no leg in this nor am I going to pretend I understand the politics behind Israel. I just wanted to upvote the comment that pointed this out. They just causally throw that in there.


Geoffrey_Cohen

Not the first coalition ever with an Arab party! I wish people stopped saying it, every government from 1948 until 1977 had an Arab party in its coalition. The [first](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_government_of_Israel) one was [the Democratic Party of Nazareth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_List_of_Nazareth) in 1948, the last one was [The Arab List for Baduin and Villages](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_List_for_Bedouin_and_Villagers) in 1977. During this period EVERY government was in sitting with Arab parties: [Democratic List for Israeli Arabs](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_List_for_Israeli_Arabs) [Progress and Work](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Work) [Agriculture and Development](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_and_Development) [Cooperation and Brotherhood](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation_and_Brotherhood) [Progress and Development](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Development)


johnny-T1

Just a dumb question: Can Netanyahu be jailed?


MGD109

Israel has sent corrupt politicians to prison before. Considering how much Netanyahu threw into not losing office, I think the case against him must be pretty strong.


ShnizelInBag

If he is found guilty


beaverteeth92

Yes. Israel has imprisoned a former PM (Ehud Olmert for bribery and obstruction of justice) and a former president (Moshe Katzav for rape and obstruction of justice).


yellowbloodil

We got a president jailed so why not a PM


ISayHeck

Why not another PM?*


yellowbloodil

Well technically Olmert wasn't a PM when he was found guilty


Dithyrab

I hope this helps fix some stuff!


oshaboy

I will not believe Bibi was replaced until the wikipedia article "[List of prime ministers of Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Israel)" will say so.


octaviosergio2

looks like Netanyahu read the room wrong


durgasur

funny to read all those comments saying " I don't no much about Israeli politics, how does this affect the Palestines?" A lot of people are anti Israel and Pro Palestine and have very strong opinions about the situation but apparently have never to the time to learn how politics works in Israel.


thatgeekinit

There’s a definite lack of studying ones adversaries on the Palestinian side of the conflict, otherwise they would have taken the 2000 two state offer, reasonably predicting that a cynical opportunist like Netanyahu would be empowered by making more reasonable Israeli leaders look ineffective when negotiations broke down. I bet that the Israeli government knows the negotiation stances of every likely successor for Fatah and Hamas.


Ecpiandy

The 2000 offer still allowed Israel to keep East Jersualem and loads of pockets of the West Bank..


polycharisma

Man, imagine stirring up all this recent violence as a ploy to stay in power and still failing. All those dead Palestinians for literally nothing.


moham225

WE DID IT BOYS! WE DID IT, LIKE IN AMERICA ISRAELI POLITICS IS NOW BORING AGAIN!!!!!


omgapc

All early coalitions were with Arab parties this is the first time they're so big


sultan747747

Bout time for some fresh blood.


FifeSymington

That’s cool and all. But what were Anthony Bourdaine and Vlad Putin talking about?


friendofalltehworld

Bibi is like the antagonist from a horror movie. He's not down for good until you actually see the body.


miura_lyov

OP title phrasing this as anything positive is very misleading. The Arab party will have little to no influence, and the new coalition parties aren't much of an improvement in terms of how they view Palestinians. Lapid is more centrist, but the other parties are even _worse_ than Netanyahu


chitowngirl12

A peace deal and two state solution isn't going to happen anytime soon but Ra'am being included in an Israeli government is big. There has apparently been a gentlemen's agreement in Israel about the parties not negotiating with Arabs which Netanyahu was actually the one to break by encouraging Abbas to separate from the Joint List. (Netanyahu was cynically going to use Abbas and renege on his promises like he did with every other partner.) Netanyahu courting Abbas made it palatable for Bennett and Sa'ar to sign onto a final deal. And having the Arab parties in government making deals does alot to more to help the Arabs than the Joint List whining from the sidelines about how Israel is an apartheid state. I'm sure that Abbas' constituents will be grateful for him getting more government services to their towns, ensuring that things like equal rights laws are enforced, etc. Politics is the art of the possible and right now what is possible is an Arab party playing the role in the government and working to improve the lives of Arab Israeli citizens.