Zach Steffen starts for Manchester City
By - Turtle_317
Shoutout the South American Covid restrictions for getting him a start
Gets the picture too, not bad when KDB and Sterling are also in the line-up.
How did Zack do? Any particular highlights?
Had a really nice 1v1 save
he did well. controlled the box during a couple corners and loose balls, no real highlights in distribution really but the keeper plays a role there for city and he filled it capably. For my money he's the best keeper for the USMNT but I'm probably biased as a city fan
Also a USMNT / City fan but i agree that Steffen's ceiling is definitely higher than Turner's. Would love to see him get more starts for the US.
Hoping he not only gets the cleansheet but also gives the performance of his life.
Unfortunately he's up against Burnley, who will probably struggle to have any shots to actually save.
Clean sheet for Zach
What a bad ass pic!
I really like the Ederson-like swagger Steffen seems to be developing from training along side him. He’s not always superb with his feet but always confident on the ball and makes decisive challenges.
It’s almost like training at a high profile club + getting some minutes in your mid 20s isn’t going to destroy a career with 10 years left on it.
Absurd. Playing time is most important. Anyway, have you heard about this American striker that’s leading the Albanian first division in scoring?
Also, Pulisic needs to move
Edit: /s apparently needed
Keeper is definitely the most toxic positional debate amongst supporters. It’s absolute war out there lol.
old enough to remember people rating horvath over steffen
Meola over Keller and Friedel was even better.
*After the manager position
I really hope this keeps developing as we need to see what he's learned from his time at City.
For real. I remember watching Steffen before he came to city and in his most recent appearance for the national team. Man looked just like Ederson with the ball in possession it was scary
Serious question is Matt Turner capable of being a number 2 for a major club in Europe. Because I really don’t think so.
Probably not. What separates the Edersons and Neuers from the rest of the good shot stoppers is their distribution, and these top teams utilize that. Their backup keeper being able to play the same style is more important than being an awesome shot stopper.
That being said, many mid table and lower teams, who tend to play more counterattacking soccer, would probably prefer Turner’s plus shot stopping to hold leads. They don’t hold possession and play out of the back enough for his poor distribution to matter
The top teams frequently have the luxury of not needing a great shot stopper especially for their backup. The USMNT is not a top team and should prioritize shot stopping from a keeper.
I would tend to agree with you about prioritizing shot stopping, but it’s situational imo. There’s a ton of teams in CONCACAF that will barely put high pressure on us. In that case, Turner would be better for dealing with the occasional breakaway or set piece, which are the only ways these teams are creating chances against us.
But against like Mexico, I’d prefer Steffen. Mexico has the talent to push us onto our back foot and keep us there with a high press. With Turner back there, that becomes *much* easier to do: funnel it to him, cover the three short passes, then watch him boot it long. Steffen’s distribution forces you to also cover the 8s, or else risk getting exposed on the break.
Matt Turner seems like he might be the perfect keeper for Everton under Rafa Benitez.
Easily, he was objectively better than Steffen in almost every metric when they were both in MLS.
That was 3 years ago, though. Steffen is rightfully a different player.
Turner right now is the arguably best keeper in MLS I think if he wanted to he could be playing in Europe. He’s been putting up stellar statistics
but apparently a keeper from MLS is better lol
If Steffen were playing regularly he’d likely be first choice for the US, he’s more well rounded than Turner is (Steffen is better rushing out and playing the ball with his feet). But not playing often is a big deal and he did look rusty against Costa Rica, particularly early on. That goal was savable IMO and I think both a regularly playing Steffen and Turner could have saved it. But he looked caught off guard and not ready for the shot.
He’s going to be starting for a PL club next season. He will be our starter come WC time (given we qualify).
>He’s going to be starting for a PL club next season.
we really don't know this
Wanna bet? Upvote for an upvote 🤣
lol I would love to see it happen so I'm board with the idea. I'm just not terribly optimistic about what will be a 27 year old keeper who has either been in MLS or a backup being bought to start for a PL team.
he was pretty good for freiburg I believe tho, maybe thats enough
Okaaayyyyy you wait and see good sir
Is there a transfer rumor? I’d love to see him leave city and go somewhere he will start regularly.
Think he’s gonna resign with City then go on loan to a mid table team
Well that would be relevant if this was next year.
Huh? Did you read the comment I replied to? He’s talking about starting regularly and I’m saying he will be starting when we’re playing the most important games.
That's a risk assumption. Turner is starting every game and playing well now, which is why he should continue to be first choice. For all we know, a Turner will be the starter in a big league next year.
League is the starting point of player evaluation, not the ending point.
He’s starting against BURNLEY mate
Turner is starting against CHICAGO mate
Turner will have to do more against Chicago then Steffen did against Burnley.
Burnley would win the MLS
Man City would beat Burnley with *me* in goal.
And only because City are being forced into it 😂 I like Steffen but I can't believe someone is actually making this argument.
if Ederson left city, Pep is confident enough in steffen where they wouldn’t have to go out an buy another number 1 keeper
I can absolutely guarantee you that they would buy a keeper.
If we’re speaking in absolutes, this is not something you could guarantee
burnley > the likes of dc united, real salt lake, austin fc
Have you been watching the US games? Turner has had objectively better and more consistent performances than steffen over the past 6 months. Itd be one thing if He started every game for Man City, but he never does.
Steffan got scored on in less than 60 seconds. It took almost 500 minutes for someone to score on Turner.
To be fair, Turner played a bunch of CONCAF minnows in the summer.
Bruh I'm pretty sure you just troll both r/Ligamx and r/ussoccer pretending to be supporters of both
Says the guy who prefers the MLS striker over anyone else