Really wanna see the storyline where White Wolf learns new skills from farming in Wakanda
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That spear was unusual brutal for a mcu fight scene
The Captain America movies are all the most brutal in the MCU. Body counts are high. Naturally this captain America spin-off would be the same
Iron Man 1 and 3 are pretty brutal as well (as far as villains killed by hero). Less realistic though.
You’re so right. Especially in the first one where the Hydra soldier falls into the propellers.
Yep, the first two have a guy getting sucked into a jet engine.
Someone didn't watch the Punisher
The Punisher isn’t considered a part of the MCU.
Wait what since when? I didn't know that. That seems a little silly they wouldn't include it.
The punisher is a marvel character but it’s not part of the cinematic universe since it was a Netflix show
Okay, but daredevil mentions "the incident" AND sokovia. It stands to reason its all at least loosely connected.
It’s connected from the Netflix side where they reference it, but not from the marvel side if that makes sense
I get what you're saying, but I don't understand WHY lol why not just make it all canon?
They probably don’t want to have to put an R rating on avenger movies?
Nah deadpool 3 is confirmed MCU and R-rating. Its part of the 'not MCU' tv shows they did. Anything before disneyplus isn't technically MCU (Feige-verse).
Yup, exactly. Thought Feige has recently commented on that and said that he wants to reinstate some of the Netflix and possibly ABC Marvel characters into MCU. For example it’s been nearly confirmed that Charlie Cox will appear as Matt Murdoch/ Daredevil in Spider-Man: No Way Home. So, that should be at least a start. We’ll see what happens eventually.
For sure, there is definitely some gold in those netflix shows, and I trust Feige to incorporate them as needed.
Right? I thought maybe it'd just pin her jacket to the container... nope! Straight through the shoulder.
I’m still surprised they should the decapitation of Thanos, which is pretty brutal
I don't think the decapitation has anything on Loki getting choked out in IW. I was extremely surprised they put that in a Marvel pg13 movie. It looks so graphic and brutal, it almost made me a bit uncomfortable just because it was so unexpected.
I agree. But with the choking of Loki and the decapitation of Thanos it somewhat felt different, for me mainly because Thanos is one big blob of CGI and Loki was clearly in a lot of make-up. So even 13 year olds could see that. There was also a lot of drama around it what made the violance, more acceptable I guess?
But this spearthrow however felt more real and it was very clear that it was intentional to hurt somebody in a brutal way. With some visible blood it could as well been something that happened in a John Wick movie.
Funny enough, this episode was written by the same guy who helped write the Wick movies
I knew it! The whole time I watched that episode it felt like a less smooth John Wick.
Someone could literally get impaled like this in real life though it's more likely to be an accident than be thrown by someone
The way his legs were kicking as lifted him up as he strangled him is what stuck with me. As if he was trying to run away. That coupled with the final crack of his neck made Loki’s death one of the most brutal in the MCU.
IMO. Loki's actual death HAD to be brutal and leave no doubt that it was the real Loki, and he had really been murdered. We had seen Loki "die" to often, and so had Thor. If Loki hadn't died in exactly that way, the audience would have been holding out hope for the rest of the movie(s) that he'd find some sneaky way to come back out of hiding and help.
I mean, as it is, he's sneaky enough that a Variant of him escaped and earned his own TV show, so... :P
You were so concerned with whether or not you could that you never stopped to think whether you should.
But there was no purple soda fountain.
Lots of people getting visibly shot to death in that episode too.
Yep, but no blood or splattering body parts. The violence is brutal but not graphically so.
There was some blood on the scientist
Quite a bit of it. Not a normal amount for being shot, but definitely more than some of the tamer (and by that I mean more family friendly) MCU components.
I was confused how he was bleeding from his mouth if he got shot in the torso, but then I realised the bullet probably pierced his oesophagus and the blood rose up into his mouth
The look on Bucky's face when he reliased the damage he'd caused was the perfect expression of contradictionary thoughts and emotions he must have had in that split second.
I loved how they can be a bit more brutal and hint at things since it’s technically TV-14, which can be a bit darker since it’s tv and not PG-13, which usually try to be safer with movie audiences.
They're still not quite as brutal as Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. got away with on a TV-PG rating though. Lots of blood and explicit knife and bullet wounds, Jiaying's vivisection, the rusty nail inside the fingernails torture scene.
And then when they amped up to TV-14 for the Ghost Rider arc there was even more. Robbie was burning folks.
Oh wow, I had never watched Agents of Shield! I need to check it out. I loved Daredevil and if they continue this tv show thing, I'd love for Charlie Cox as DD to come back.
You have absolutely got to watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. Still tops my list of best MCU things
~~it was pretty hot though~~
TV is rated 14 unlike the movies' 13
A man of your talents
It’s a peaceful life.
everytime Bucky does something cool I’m reminded of how much of a badass he is. Like you see him cracking jokes and next thing hes nailing peoples into walls.
Idk where im going with this but hes becoming one of my top mcu characters
He is my favorite male MCU/Marvel character. (Natasha is my favorite female MCU/Marvel character.)
Hey, I completely understand you! I feel completely the same. I’ve sorta liked Bucky, but this show makes an excellent job of making me like him more and more. He’s just awesome. And Sebastian Stan does a great job with his portrayal.
Yeah whenever I rewatch his fight scenes as the Winter Soldier I remember how insane and badass he is. He’s definitely more tame as Bucky but still got it in him.
Probably the same fight choreographer. You see similar moves throughout the movies.
Didn't Ant-Man do the Black Widow scissor kick once?
I don’t know, but wasp has.
he did it on falcon
it’s not simply the choreographer, the fight’s designed intentionally to look similar
I think they meant that, during that time Bucky probably trained with the wakandans so he must have learned some of their moves too
>the fight is designed intentionally
In case you cant read
They called him the white wolf earlier in the episode and mentioned wakanda a bunch. They’re definitely trying to tie Bucky to wakanda.
Lmao okay buddy. Theory not source.
That’s the source for the theory. Welcome to talking about shows on the internet.
Absolute BS. Downvoted? Really? You marvel nerds think these are the most meticulously planned out movies ever
They are throughout all what, 23 movies and the 8 series (I can remember). There are small hints and Easter eggs such as cap holding the car door on a “poster” in TF&TWS which was the one cap held in the first captain America. In Wanda vision, the adds are mainly hydra, Jimmy (the FBI guy in ant man and Wandavision) learned a card trick throughout multiple movies and so on. I agree with OP that this was probably intentional, but no one can know for sure. Still, marvel *is* some of the “most planned out movies ever” imo or at the very least, really well thought through, from the big combined story line to even the tiniest details
It’s callbacks over planning. It’s easy to call back to something over plan for it ahead of time.
Wouldn’t it then be callbacks if this spear thing was intentional tho?
If you think it’s a callback, then you agree it was intentional. I don’t think it was coincidence that Bucky threw a spear in an episode where they reference Wakanda a bunch.
Let me guess your new to the mcu?
It's clear you are
Thanks for deciding that for me
No no this OP was actually on set ....... or is the director or some shit
There's a lot I want to see from Wakanda. The look of respect and acknowledgement Bucky gave Ayo is the sort of look between equals with history that makes up the best MCU relationships (eg Steve / Tony, Hawkeye / Black Widow).
And thats why i love the MCU. You can do that. Its so massive and expansive and intertwined that two characters with no screen time together can have a meaningful interaction with history behind it.
I don't think they have history. Bucky was hanging out with the border tribe and Shuri. He probably just figured a Wakandan would show up in general
I yelled when he harpooned her like that & out loud just said “Welp, she’s never using that shoulder again.”
But she will always have a core sample of it.
NGL, as much as I love Winter Soldier, I would totally watch Sebastian Stan starring in Bucky the One Armed Goat Herder.
I really enjoy his face in the 2nd pic
Lol, “John Matrixing.”’ Lol, and since we’re on the subject of Arnold, let’s bring the Predators into the MCU so we can make Dutch canon. Bring those Arnold one liners into the MCU. “Let off some steam, Bennett!”
Let off some steam Bennett.
Thats all I could think of too when I seen that.
Lol, yea. It’s embedded into my memory as well!
Remember, Zemo, when I promised to kill you last? I lied.
Lol, I’d laugh if they referenced that. (Bucky holding Zemo over a cliff with his real arm), “I have to remind you Zemo, this is my weak arm!” 🤣
I could see Zemo pulling off the he’s dead tired about someone recently murdered.
Remember when I said ai would kill you last?.... I lied
Great catch with the Okoye parallel
Farewell to Arms
"Bucky-san, show me 'Till Field'."
See ya Rule 2
Didn´t even catch that, but love that parallel!!!
Also, his face in the second photo is amazing :D
This isn't criticism, but it kinda looks like Bucky and Sam are beating up a lot of women in this show. In several tv spots and trailers I've seen them knocking down and kicking women
And? Those women were either bounty hunters trying to kill them or shady people up to no good. They deserved a beat up just as much as their male counterparts. It's not like they were going round beating innocent women.
Oh no, I'm not saying it isn't allowed or something. It's just something I noticed
I never noticed. Just saw it as them beating up bad guys.
Bad “people”. Watch the patriarchy stuff bud....
/s just in case it wasn’t obvious.
I got it dw!
Since Luke Cage S2 I’ve noticed more and more female presenting henchmen getting their asses kicked by the heroes in Marvel stuff. Women can be can be anything now, including nameless goons meant purely for action fodder lol
Yeah, you're right
If it's not a criticism, what is it?
I observed that characters seem to constantly wear clothes. Is there some secret pro-clothing agenda at play?
Jut like you said, it's just a observation.
And what, if anything, do you suspect to be the meaning behind it? Is the show secretly saying that women deserve to be beat up by strong men?
Or maybe we've just reached a point where generic bad guys can be of either gender.
Unsure why you’re being downvoted, you’re right. I’ve never seen as many femme-presenting perps in Marvel than the last episode.
I mean women litterally are half the population so like that they would at least a couple
I mean yeah but I’ve never seen them casted before?
Okoye would whip Buckys ass if they fought
I don't think Bucky could actually throw a hard punch towards women, he grew up in a time when chivalry is not dead :))
I don't think he would throw a punch at Okoye because he's a military man and she's a general.
Ayo was who showed up. Just like in Civil War
Yo he cold strangled a woman after running her car off the road and murdering her husband in front of her..
Bro that’s the winter soldier... not bucky...
he can throw a spear thru their shoulder but couldn't throw a hard punch :))