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Salah-Estarossa

From what we saw weaker than Uto. Like every Vritra we saw, he had a decay ability, and it didn't seem that powerful (gaz like decay time magic), though his physical performance was outstanding, considering he wasn't in his body but in Ada's. Personally I would say that he was white core level in terms of strength. We don't know if he was able to use all of his strength and use his Runes despite being in some else's body, so I'm going to him in this spot. Definitely way weaker than Uto, since if he truly was that strong, he would've been a Retainer. Though the fact that Caera nor Regis didn't point out that he might be an old retainer, so he wasn't.


Life-Mine9390

I also would rank him beneath Uto. Although I think he had most of his abilities, or at least some of them. When Arthur used his destruction rune, a hard black shell formed around his body, which healed him, I think. Or like when Caera tried to hit him, he was able to do some shit with „his“ knee, which allowed him to trap Caeras sword in a knot of black tissue. So we don’t really know about his abilities and everything, but I don’t think his abilities were bound to his runes. Like isn’t the decoy magic bound to his Vritra blood? I‘m really unsure about this. He definitely wasn’t a retainer and not a scythe, because he would’ve been recognized, but I‘m pretty sure that doesn’t mean he isn’t as strong as a retainer. Agrona has very many mutts (?), and I don’t think that everyone wants to be a scythe or a retainer. He said that the strongest fighters died by his hands, so idk about that one. I don’t think he was at the level of a scythe and probably in this form not even on Utos level, but just thinking about how he „easily“ handled Caera + Kalon definitely makes him relatively strong (imo)


GHOST2K5

Who was mythelias again?


Life-Mine9390

The Vritra blooded ascender, who was „sealed“ in the mirror room. He got freed, while Arthur was in the keystone and killed Kalon and almost killed Caera, if it wasn’t for Arthur


GHOST2K5

Oh that guy art destroyed him . Man can you think art would have full insight about the aror requi something , if he wasnt distracted about the outside world


Life-Mine9390

I think there definitely would’ve been a good chance, but Idk.


rap709

In his original body Id say he would be as or stronger than the scythes since he said he was the direct son of a sovereign so he's literally half blooded and irc half bloods are banned from the war same as the full blooded asurans


Life-Mine9390

I think he said he’s a son of the sovereigns, like Caera is basically a daughter of the sovereigns, because of her blood. And half breeds being banned from the war wouldn’t make sense, since the retainers and Scythes are literally half breeds. When Aldir met Uto, he called him a „filthy lessuran“. Maybe in his prime he was as strong as Uto or maybe above that, but in his „borrowed“ body he was weaker. However, I think he was still relatively strong.


rap709

That could be a possibility that he isnt literally the son of the sovereigns didn't think about that and by halfbreeds i think it meant exactly 50% so first gen half breeds and the scythes probably arent first gen but the reason i think he is the direct child and of a sovereign and strong is because irc he had long horns


Salah-Estarossa

>half bloods are banned from the war same as the full blooded asurans Where was that stated ? The chapter please because i don't remember that.


Life-Mine9390

Chapter 104 (e-Book) „A treaty was eventually formed between the two sides, forbidding the asuras from acting directly because of the collateral damage it would cause if a full-scale war were to occur between the seven asura races of Epheotus and the Vritra clan’s army of Basilisks and lesser, half-breed mutts.” There was a tone of obvious spite in his voice. As I thought over his words, I realized how much of a disadvantage Dicathen was at. This treaty had been in place for generations, and even though it prohibited asuras and the half-breeds from directly participating in the battles, who knew how many of the so-called ‘lesser races’ of Alacrya had the blood of asuras mixed with their own.“ So I think he’s right, that if you’ve reached some percentage of being partly Vritra, that you are prohibited from taking part in the war. Although I think it’s a little bit confusing.


Salah-Estarossa

But who are this people that are more than 50% Vritra ? We've barely seen all the Scythe, and haven't even seen any Sovreign, yet there would be other groups that haven't even been introduced, while the novel is reaching it's end ?


Life-Mine9390

Yeah that’s my question as well. But Windsom stated that there were thousands of mutts waiting for the Asuras, so where are they now? Like have they been reduced to only the scythes? Like out of thousands and thousands of mutts, only 4 survived? I just think that maybe these mutts are partly the head of high bloods, or are just chilling their life, idk. If you are going by sovereigns, there should only be like 5 Basilisks in Alacrya. I just think that the rest ist just strayed above Alacrya or something. I hope that TurtleMe explains it rather soon, because it really is confusing.


rap709

maybe most of them are chilling in taegrin caelum? how else would agrona defend against the attack in taegrin caelum


Life-Mine9390

Yeah, some basilisks definitely have to live inside the castle, because they defended from the sneak attack of Windsom, Aldir and some other Asuras.


rap709

probably gonna be explained during the victoriad along with the sovereigns


Salah-Estarossa

I hope so


rap709

hopefully it gets explained during the victoriad


Life-Mine9390

Yeah


rap709

it was during the asuran training arc for the exact chapter i forgot edit it was chapter 104 the great eight


Salah-Estarossa

You didn't understand what I was trying to say. The treaty forbade only Asuras from participating, there was no mention of half Asuras banned from participating.


rap709

it said half breeds arent allowed to participate wdym


Salah-Estarossa

The ban was only on the Asuras, [here.](https://imgur.com/a/TXVFvpb)


rap709

In the paragraph bellow it said it prohibited asuras and half breeds from interfering but it was from aurthurs pov so he could wrong on that and i think it means it only applies to 50%+ vritra blood so scythes are not prohibited


Salah-Estarossa

I'm not sure fam. Scythes are literally the highest ranking people in Acharya. Above them there are only the Sovreigns and Agrona.


rap709

I mean there should be more than more asurans than 5 sovereigns in Alacrya that should stronger than scythes and Scythes are the highest in ranking in the Alacryan military but the military can't include half bloods since the agreement but idk i might be wrong since this stuff hasnt really been mentioned again like are the vritra clan just chilling or something


Salah-Estarossa

Well the ranking shown to us is: Asuras are on top of the hierarchy then the Vritra blooded. So it would be Agrona, his 5 Or 4 Sovreigns, the rest of the Vritra Clan (Asuras), the Scythes, the Retainers, the Vritra blooded Alacryans. It would be really weird if there's another group that is stronger than the Scythes that we've never heard of, while we are reaching the end of the novel. The Scythe, the Retainers, the Asuras, all of them have been introduced early on but and were continuously mentioned and appeared, but these >50% Vritra come a bit out of nowhere imo, there wouldn't enough time to develop them while we still didn't get to see all the Scythes and didn't even met the Sovreigns.


Life-Mine9390

Man, it’s so confusing. I just re-read chapter 341, where Seris talks with Aldir. In that conversation, Aldir „insulted“ Seris as „half-breed“. So yeah, it’s pretty confusing.


rap709

i think half breed could be used interchangeably and also refer to anyone with vritra descent? And the half breed mentioned in 104 were fully half


shineentr

If my memory right he was said during battle he was son of sovereign so he sure has more than potential someone like uto /Agrona's experimental mutts/ so above of retainers like uto below of scythe or could match scythes /defends his father Mr sovereign/


Life-Mine9390

I think it’s a little bit confusing. He didn’t say that he was the son of a specific sovereign, but a son of „sovereigns“. The reason for that is, that he’s Vritra blooded. He’s is the son of the sovereigns, just like Caera would be considered the daughter of the sovereigns, but idk


shineentr

"Son of sovereign" this the problem. Bcuz He's trapped pretty long ago. I think its even before term of acsenders /acsender term introduced 70 years ago- Grey clearly read this in Maerin town and before it was really anyone can enter relictomb and even agrona need to take action/ and Kalons word that mythela's helmet etc are pretty old so its possible that mythela itself fully blooded one /just my guess/ besides Caera had vritra blood doesnt make her direct daughter of vritra and lesser i mean if she was direct child of vritra sovereign blood why they even need to take her denoirs?! It must be gap there It was like grey considered djinn blood that doesnt mean he was direct son of djinns and I think Caera's case was like grandpa or sonething make her rlly close but does not rlly direct one and it was clearly have gap btw power scale too


Solidlogyck

Uto level maybe


NotSurprisedNow

Sorry to ask, I completely forgot who Mythelias is. In what chapter does this character appear?


Life-Mine9390

He appears when they are in the mirror room. He escapes in chapter 305 (e-book)


NotSurprisedNow

Ah, alright thank you. Appreciate it.