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Imperator_Crispico

Well what if some CIA glowie is breaking in to my house with the intention to take my tv and rape me and I want to eat him. Which one do I use?


Micro_KORGI

Edit: for legal reasons I cannot endorse the illegal production or usage of a particular type of weapon that starts with L and ends with UTY


alltheblues

Based


Brows_Actual1225

Good answer


Faolan26

Question, isn't it fine to make them if they are not full auto? Atleast in the US it's fine to manufacture a firearm for personal use.


Micro_KORGI

I'm not a lawyer, but from what I understand you would need to first fill out an ATF form before you could do that.


Faolan26

Well you don't have to do that for an 80%. The ATF considers the lower receiver the fierarm, interestingly enough, its the easiest part to manufacture, as it has no moving parts, it's just a block of metal machined to hold the trigger assembly, the magazine and a couple of spots for other stuff to attach to like the upper. It has no moving parts of its own. Hundreds of thousands of people finish 80%s all the time and are not legally required to serialize them or tell the ATF they have made them. That is why they are so popular. However its a good idea to put something on it just for yourself like your name followed by 001 or something like that. That way if it's stolen it can be identified as yours.


nationwide13

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.


WaterBottleass

"If I'm breaking into someone's home and they call me a *ruffian* I am getting right outta there"


Benito_Buendia

Which one do you use for fun?


btdallmann

All of the above, plus others.


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The grenade launcher


Frequent_Dig1934

*Full auto* grenade launcher. Belt fed, if possible.


Necessary-Low-2063

Mk 19 vibes. I love it


AceTemplar21

Any experience with one? Every combat footage video I see with one has them fixing jams so I was curious if its really that common.


RichardLigma

It's usually a link break since they are in ammo cans and can feed in wonky, or its lubrication issue or they put it together wrong😬 happens a lot. It's heavy as hell body and the bolt and would not recommend getting your finger stuck in it, it will break and hurt extra if it's your good middle finger. 1500 meters on a point target 30 meter radius per grenade. Hard to fuck it up. Unless you clear it pointing it at a guard tower. That's how I got promoted onto it as a new dick 2nd month in Afghanistan. Always assume a weapon is loaded. Especially one that goes boom.


whatchaboi

they're all fun


Skippn_Jimmy

A glue gun...for bedazzling


dovahkiinot

The Infinity Gauntlet


Dababykicker69420

A nuke


jayceh

This is my rifle, this is my gun…


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ifuckingh8horses

nerf gun


anon12xyz

Good question!


SilencedD1

The answer: yes


Matt_fuck_off_3

Ironic a bit that you use a Russian gun for foreigners


97s8n

the bullets are usually Russian faster than the gun


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r/angryupvote


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*Nyet!*


TooFubar

What are you doing here Dad??


Cohav0310

Take your damn upvote!


rohnoitsrutroh

In all fairness, I'm sure the AK has killed more Russians than the AR.


DangerousLiberty

Russians have killed more Russians than the Nazis did.


Fernando_357

roughly 20 million


craschnet

An they gave Duranty a pulitzer for covering it up. They still haven't pulled it. Just proves to you that journalism is dead.


WorkHardButDontPlay

A tool is a tool. Doesn't matter who made it, only matters who uses it Specifically AK today is the same versatile platform as AR15


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Mygaffer

I find that often those with the strongest antigun views are the least informed about guns and gun owners.


Arcanian88

‘I find often those with the strongest views are the least informed’ FTFY


CantSayDat

This applies to a lot more than just guns as well


_Maxie_

You just cracked open the gun issue in America, uneducated people trying to police things they have not the slightest idea about


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not the same; the ak has style.


ratrodder49

Brandon Herrera, is that you?


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i fucking wish lmao


Flanz1

and reliability


iamdecal

And makes a very distinctive sound


Klutz1907

There's a decent amount of US companies producing AK pattern rifles.


SanctusUltor

Most US made AKs are kinda just shit to the point of being handgrenades. Kalashnikov USA and AKG are your best bets for an American-made AK. Zastava is also a good option. Used to be Arsenal was really good but now you pay $2500, get a gun with a bent receiver, send it back for warranty and get another gun with a bent receiver. They're resting on their laurels and their QC went to shit. Back when they were $1k guns they were better quality and had better QC.


Klutz1907

I've heard PSA is ok too


BrobdingnagLilliput

The Russians designed cheap but effective and reliable weapons. Americans designed high-tech weapons that were REALLY GOOD but needed constant maintenance. During the Viet Nam war, you could bury an AK-47, dig it up, and fire it. The M-16 might jam during use.


clearedmycookies

Its a good thing i don't store my guns in a hole in the ground.


gotta_b_shittin_me

Thats why I keep my trusty rusty SKS close by while all my friends are jerkin it over their ARs


2020mademejoinreddit

The one using it makes all the difference in these things. Whether it's guns or technology/social media. Use it right and you can create a paradise, use it wrong and you create hell. Edit: Here's an interesting video (Only for the open-minded, non-extremist and non-pro-censorship people). It's always important to look at things from a perspective other than ours, comfort zone might give comfort, but takes away responsibility, freedom and clear thinking. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vo53vQvLJc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vo53vQvLJc)


Current_Spot_9121

I like this comment it tells objective truth without picking a side Edit:[of course someone makes an argument]


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

THANK you. It's so disappointing seeing the number of people that think my rights should be forfeit because *someone else* misused a tool that I own. I don't see people clamoring to ban SUVs after Waukesha. And Alec Baldwin has killed more people than I have.


Frequent_Dig1934

Well no because you see, "he didn't pull the trigger or cock the hammer", the gun just went off on its own because of *magic* so he can't really be blamed if the production (himself but that' just details) didn't "hire a cop" for safe gun keeping.


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

Oh I fucking LOVED that quote. All sets should hire a cop to verify guns and ensure safety protocols are being followed. Or... ya know... you could have just followed the safety protocols yourself...


ryleu

I think the play would be to ensure that everyone gets a training program before they can use guns. There’s another country that does this, but I can’t remember the name. I saw a Tom Scott video about it. While this would be a bit of an infringement, it’s something that I would support for the purpose of making everyone safer.


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

You don't need a special training program to petition or be secure from unreasonable search and seizure. That said, firearms education in schools would be very smart imo. And while I don't care for the NRA, the Eddie Eagle program seema solid.


Siegelski

>All sets should hire a cop to verify guns and ensure safety protocols are being followed. He says this to shift the blame, but the question is, if he thought this, why didn't he hire one? He's the producer. He owns the production company. He's the star of the film. He's one of the lead writers. This was his film, and nobody else's.


USArmyJoe

I am willing to bet that statement was made at the advice of his lawyer to indirectly implicate the armorer for not providing a properly functioning gun while also implying it was an *accidental* discharge, and not a *negligent* discharge, and thirdly implying some element of malice that some nefarious person brought live ammo and it *happened* to result in this "one in a trillion" "accident". I fully expect a professional actor to be able to put on a satisfying performance that he is the ultimate victim here. Too bad Halyna isn't around to cry on camera about HER being the victim, **because she is dead after being shot by Alec Baldwin.**


Fennova

We could prove this so very wrong. Easily. So you wait for Alec to be on the phone, heated call, distracted, then you bring him an airsoft gun and try and hand it to him. If he put his finger in the trigger guard then he definitely shot that gun on set, if not then maybe he really did get a 1 in a 10000000000 chance for an unstable primer. I think we know what really happened, he's just doing whatever he can to make himself feel less blame and guilt for killing someone, I'd say that's probably the default response for most of the population, society has made its all very selfish and irresponsible, no accountability anymore. Disgusting...


evansdeagles

1.35 million people are killed a year by cars global; mostly being accidents due to negligence. But, there's a lot of times were cars are deliberately used to kill and/or injure/maim people. Waukesha saw the deaths of numerous people via car. The Charlottesville Unrest saw the death of one and injures of numerous others via terrorist attack using a car. The 2005 Sharm El-Shiekh bombings used car bombs driven into busy places to kill 88 people. In 2016, someone drove a truck into a Nice City crowd and killed 86 people. The IRA has also used car bombs numerous times before. Al-Qaeda and ISIS both told people that cars are one of the most effective weapons to use if you're in a foreign country with limited resources, as they are hard to stop for local police forces and can mow a large number of people down in a little amount of time. Per year, there's an estimated 250,000 people killed by guns globally, excluding war. This includes everything from mass shootings to accidental death, suicide, homicide, home invasion, and self-defense. People have probably used cars for each one (except home invasion.) And if we consider cases where cars are secondary tools to assist in the crime (get-away cars, drive by shooting, used to conceal bombs or make IEDs etc) then that number goes up by a lot. So, we've established that cars: can be used for homicide, can lead to deaths through negligence usage, and can be used for mass killings and terror attacks. But, with that said, getting rid of guns would still lower the amount of mass shootings and would make mass killings in schools significantly harder. So, there is a silver lining that is a false equivalence with this analogy. But, that's not to say that the entire analogy is trash. Rather, it does reveal that unless you ban everything that can be used as a weapon, there will still be a lot of people who die. For example, steak knives are for cutting meat. That means that they can be used to cut human meat as well. Ultimately, there's no good way to move forward. Ban guns, and you'll be addressing a minority of the tools used to kill people. Don't ban guns and a lot of people would die that wouldn't have otherwise died; for example a car can only kill outside gatherings (unless it is carrying a bomb,) such as in Waukesha and Nice. Also, a knife is harder to kill with in a building than a gun, though there have been a few mass murders and terror attacks that have been successful using them. Also, do note that most of the world's gun deaths come from places that have not completely outlawed guns. With the biggest of which, in both population (of people; America has one of the largest global populations) and gun deaths, is America. In the end, there's no right call with banning guns or keeping them. I think a lot of redditors lack that nuance and are completely on board with banning or keeping. Rather, a better solution would be just to increase mental health checks and ban things such as extended magazines (you don't need extended magazines to defend yourself from an assailant, nor for hunting or sporting.) Sources: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-10866072 https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/world/terrorist-attacks-by-vehicle-fast-facts/index.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/global-road-safety/index.html#:~:text=Each%20year%2C%201.35%20million%20people,on%20roadways%20around%20the%20world.&text=Every%20day%2C%20almost%203%2C700%20people,bicycles%2C%20trucks%2C%20or%20pedestrians. (That quickly turned into an essay, so) TL;Dr, cars and knives kill a lot of people too; perhaps more. Considering the available facts, making it harder to get guns may be better than banning them or making loose laws.


BigScenarios

Reddit is very reactionary. A headline will rile people up and send them online to insist that they’re totally right and everyone else is brainwashed.


joujoubox

Good luck getting a buck with a revolver


J0hnm13

.357 magnum and .44 magnum are very commonly used to hunt deer.


Doon_Cune3

Yeah but not from a revolver length barrel


J0hnm13

Yes, from a revolver length barrel. 4 inches, 6 inches, 7 inches. Obviously not (ideally) a snub, but a full sized revolver is perfectly adequate to hunt with. Tbh 9mm, 40sw, 45acp are all adequate to hunt with, if you're a competent shot and load the right brands and designs of ammo.


btdallmann

It’s true. Just like you wouldn’t want to use a convertible to haul lumber, different firearms have different uses that they are better or worse for.


SteamKore

Had a buddy use his deer rifle once to scare an intruder... killed his TV, the wall, ...another wall, and his fridge. And got some great tenitus. He now keeps a .22 pistol for home defense.


elevenpointf1veguy

"And got some great tinnitus" It's amazing that suppressors - literal safety devices designed to protect individual's hearing, is more regulated than 90% of guns lmao


Texan209

And then you have places like New Zealand where guns are super heavily regulated but suppressors are encouraged It’s all marketing and unfortunately we get screwed over by having Hollywood - so the general public thinks they make your gun completely silent and they’re just for assassins


FreeUsernameInBox

I think one of the US armed services - possibly the Marines - experimented with issuing suppressors to an entire unit. The conclusion, IIRC, was that it worked well as a way of reducing hearing damage and improving communication, but was too expensive to roll out on a large scale


Tybick

Good suppressors add a lot in cost, plus increase maintenance time/costs as they tend to incur carbon build up. More specialized roles use them for a reason though.


Zombieattackr

It’s all marketing and unfortunately we get screwed over by having Hollywood - so ~~the general public~~ *uninformed politicians 87 years ago* think they make your gun completely silent and they’re just for assassins


SteamKore

Yep way back I had looked into one for my slug gun and about shit myself when I did the math, once everything was said and done it would have cost about $2200 for the suppressor. not including the stupid amount of paperwork. Sure as hell wasnt going to put a $2200 suppressor on the end of a $200 gun. The fear mongering and laws made by people who need to take a basic safety course is painful to see.


elevenpointf1veguy

Yeah, anymore, through silencershop, the paperwork is negligible. They're definitely not cheap, but I'd be shocked if you couldnt get sub $1k all said and done, after taxes, stamp, and transfer


SteamKore

Not too terrible now then. I haven't looked into them in a long time I still can't justify it for the price though. I'll just stick with my earplugs and muffs combo.


Brogan9001

All because people believe movies and TV where the suppressor makes it a super secret stealth gun you can shoot in a crowded mall without anyone being the wiser. Edit: the only exceptions which actually almost conform to the movies/tv idea of suppressors are specially engineered firearms like the Welrod and the VSS. And for the welrod it’s really just for the first few times you fire it. Once the rubber washers wear out, it’s definitely above 100 decibels.


BicBoiSpyder

Yeah, people don't understand the usage a civilian would get out of having one. It's mostly due to media fearmongering, convincing people only want guns and supressors to go on mass murder sprees instead of obliterating their own (and others') ability to hear. It's one of the things I'm extremely happy about in the Texas gun sanctuary laws. One of them says that any supressor manufactured in Texas that stays in Texas will not be subject to federal regulations.


Goetus

Serious downgrade. 22?!?


SanctusUltor

Advantages: you can still hear, and it is gun Disadvantages: it's .22lr. well if it's a .22 mag he's probably fine


alltheblues

Damn, at least get a 9mm with good hollow points. A .22lr will kill someone, but you had better have the right combo of luck and extreme skill to hit them in the head or something. A 9mm HP will cause much more trauma, making hits that would not immediately stop someone with a .22 much more effective


RamAirSupreme

This is just common sense. Most stuff have different variants for different jobs. You wouldn't use a fork to eat soup would you?


DivergingUnity

This is actually a rather informative post, and people are just uncomfortable with firearms and so they think it's some sort of stupid message. The advice in the post is real.


Hamada_Reddits

It’s because if you use the wrong gun, your target uses the powers of the RNGods themselves and makes you miss, even at point blank.


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

What? Did they have their blasters set to "miss"?


Alexxncruz123

I own a gun because I will never trust the police to stop someone from hurting me or my family


Byizo

I own a gun because I will never trust the police ~~to stop someone from hurting me or my family~~.


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Hi_ThisIsEngineering

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


walking-shitpost

I’m all for Law Enforcement. But I hate hearing the stupid anti-2A statement, “Why do you need a gun when you can just call the police?” Police are a few minutes out. By the time they get here I might already be dead.


FrivolousFred

In a lot of cities you'd be lucky if they were minutes away. LAPD won't show up for hours and that's if they show up at all.


the_river_nihil

Call the cops in Oakland and it goes to voicemail


DblGinNVaginaJuice

Exactly. Anyone who says “you don’t need a gun you can just call 911” better not have a fire extinguisher in their house or they are a complete hypocrite!


BigScenarios

Ask a black person in the middle of a poor city why he can’t just call the police. Ask a farmer 20 minutes from the nearest police station why he can’t just call the police. As a young lady walking home at night why she can’t just call the police. 90% of Gun violence in the US is caused by our shitty justice system, lack of mental health services, poor education, and wealth disparities in general. But people want to focus on the simplistic, most superficial reasoning.


SC487

My city has one cop. After his shift, it goes to county. The county PD is 20 mi it’s from my house. My pistol is 12” from where I sleep. My shotgun is in my office which is about 20 seconds from my bed. When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


freebirdls

"why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can just call the fire department?"


Icestar-x

Also: "Why do you have a first aid kit when you can just call an ambulance?" People seem to have lost all sense of self-reliance these days.


Alexxncruz123

Agreeded


Easily-Confused-13

A few minutes? Try 45 minutes. That’s how long it took for them to come when I got attacked (and eventually hospitalized) by a psycho with a bat. And then, i guess you get what you pay for, because I waited 9 hours in a Canadian hospital, for them to do nothing. Then send me to another hospital that did nothing. I then had to make an appointment at yet another hospital to buy my cast and pay for my “free x rays.” And after all that…. Mvm I’m getting distracted. Cops are a great help for minor issues. Life and death? Fend for yourself


Ok_boomer11

• ⁠Police Have no Legal Duty to Protect You The job of law enforcement is to enforce laws, as they see fit. Multiple cases, up to the Supreme Court, have established that law enforcement has no duty to protect you. Warren v DC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia Castle Rock v Gonzalez https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales DeShaney v Winnebago County https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County Lozito v NY http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/fcas/fcas_docs/2013JUL/3001010882012002SCIV.pdf And in the Parkland shooting. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/19/parkland-shooting-judge-school-cops-no-duty-protect-kids/2360683002/ The whole to "protect and serve" is just a slogan that came from a PR campaign. http://www.lapdonline.org/history_of_the_lapd/content_basic_view/1128 • ⁠If Police do Come When Called the Average  Response Time is 11 to 18 Minutes but can be up to 24 Hours While the average police response time in America is 11 minutes it can take as long as 1 to 24 hours if they respond at all. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/current/cv08107.pdf According to the National Sheriff's Association this average response time is longer at 18 minuets. https://www.sheriffs.org/content/embracing-technology-decrease-law-enforcement-response-time And we've had events such as the national 911 outage Which can keep emergency services from even receiving your call for help. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/09/fcc-to-investigate-nationwide-911-outage/


jacxy

Could the same results be accomplished differently? In an environment where people's basic needs are met, crime —especially violent crime— is significantly less common.


The_Golden_Image

Am police, can confirm


longislandtoolshed

I can't own a gun because I would 100% kill myself with it. All it takes is one really bad day


Alexxncruz123

Self awareness is key. I'm sorry to hear about that


longislandtoolshed

Thanks bruv


BlueberryDuctTape

You and me both. I know there are other things in my house I could do some serious damage with, but having something that will do it painlessly in a moment if I hit the right spot would be gravy. I don't want to be a statistic.


BigBoi18007

You’re damn right we need those guns


flashmobcaptain

This is the healthiest thread I’ve read in a while


DeterminedSteve

The third one is also for other people. Same purpose.


If_you_ban_me_I_win

No, it needs to have black stock and butt with some scary black handgrips for that.


Aishurel

This reminds me that I should add an AK to the collection


red_ball_express

I love mine. They're very fun. Do it.


Aishurel

Considering the poly furniture Zastava. Currently my only long arm is a 300 blackout AR shorty pistol


red_ball_express

I have a Zastava with poly furniture and absolutely love it. It's an absolute joy to shoot and has given me not one issue. Buy it if you have the cash.


AWPstenz

I second this


Current_Spot_9121

You should they are very reliable


Snoo38376

Looks correct. What dont you understand?


KJClangeddin

Right? Nothing really oddly specific about this at all lol. Kinda like how you would use a hammer or screwdriver or saw for specific purposes.


DuckDuckYoga

The bottom one is pretty silly but otherwise it makes sense. If you own it you own it for fun may as well own up to it.


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OfficialKGB98

Oh boy, you mentioned firearms on reddit. Get ready for the shitstorm.


heheheheehehehhe

thats basically whats happening rn lol


btdallmann

Actually, it’s not too bad… so far. Is there a bot to note the time stamp?


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TheLeadSponge

Any time I read anything about firearms on Reddit... I generally feel dumber for having read it.


WineDarkFantasea

Especially if you’re listening to California/ New York politicians, who truly have NO clue what they are talking about. It’s embarrassing. I wouldn’t ask a mechanic if I needed an x-ray, and I certainly wouldn’t ask someone who is unable to define what an AR is if I should be able to own one.


TheHeresyTrain

Pleasantly specific.


Trick_Enthusiasm

I've been on the internet for so long that I can no longer tell where the sarcasm begins and ends.


FBISurveillanceVan87

There is no sarcasm in that picture


zzlgaming1

Are you joking? The rounds from those first two are expensive enough that it’s cheaper to just get robbed


beepboopbapbox

At least it's not a Five-seveN


Less_Professional_Hi

>carry Five-seveN >magdump on robber >realize it would have been cheaper to just give him the $20 in wallet


Perfect_Aim

MAIN POINT OF SELLING BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS EXTREME PRICE OF WEAPON AND CARTRIDGE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON OF MAN WHO WEARS EXPENSIVE ITALIAN FASCIST SUIT OF HAND SEWING, DRIVE HUGE EXPENSIVE NAZI MERCEDES OF A.M.G. SHOP, SAIL ON MASSIVE YACHT TO GREEK ISLANDS. I THINK YOU GET PICTURE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON THAT SAYS IS NO SUCH THING AS CONCERN OF MONEY. FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE. FOR REST OF WORLD THERE IS 9 MILLIMETERS OF LUGER WHICH IS SAME WOUND FOR COST LESS.


DrCrentistDMI

The Barrett 50 cal that you can rent at my local gun range costs $10 per shot. Every pull of the trigger is like dropping your lunch on the floor.


IcePhoenix18

Meanwhile, my husband: IJustThinkThey'reNeat.jpeg


rinnip

And you need multiples of each so you can arm your anti-gun friends when TSHTF.


55tinker

PSAs for my real friends and Hi Points for my sham friends


btdallmann

“Champagne for my friends, Real pain for my foes…”


orange_force

Well... It's good to be prepared


lookingForPatchie

Imagine having a burglar in your house, but you can't find your shotgun, so you're defenseless with your other 3 guns.


-mojojostar-

So you pull out your hunting rifle and put a .308 round through four walls and into your neighbors bedroom. Different guns for different purposes.


CheckYourLibido

Absolutely, people laugh at the image, crack jokes, propose new laws - all without knowing anything about guns.


DrCrentistDMI

Tbf, a rifle round can go through walls, putting family and neighbors in danger. Also, the sound of racking a shotgun can sometimes be enough to scare away an intruder.


lemonjuice707

[years of academy training wasted ](https://imgur.com/a/ynXhz4e)


Skinwalker686

You do though. A gun for every occasion.


Mjaartuhn

As long as its not harming anyone. Who cares


50CalsOfFreedom

We all know having more than one gun is evil and you must be planning to use all of them at once.


Necessary-Low-2063

*not harming innocent people


Inventio_xiii

“Preservation of freedom and liberty” *is a Soviet-made gun*


TheOGRager

Only good thing to come of communism is their firearms.


MZC_CRAZY

The only thing the commies made that ever actually worked properly is the one thing pro socialists hate these days LMAO.


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and chernobyl. they made a time capsule.


ImproperEatenKitKat

To be fair, Mikhail created a weapon to better the motherland, and it ended up preserving freedom and liberty in every country it was used in outside of the Soviet Union.


justcallmepeter

I saw this youtube video a while back, there's this country in Africa that has the AK47 as their flag because they used them to fight off oppressors and to gain independence. It doesn't matter which country made the gun, the AK preserved their freedom and liberty.


Dodough

It has the same effect as any gun from anywhere


xXBigdeagle85Xx

Yes but it looks cool af


Ahhhrealmonsterzz

Haven't government atrocities been committed with guns though?


SubParHydra

Hammer’s to probably, you’re point?


Colossal_Legend

The grammar in this comment is painful


Shitbot2000

the point is to fight fire with fire, methinks


farzad6969

What do u use an rpg for then


Son-of-Tanavast

Fun. Don't think most would disagree when someone says explosions are cool


Micro_KORGI

Do you really need a reason?


homemadeclorox2

To rocketjump


KematianGaming

using a ak for the example of defending america against its enemies and government overreach ist i bad example but i agree with all of it


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

The only thing to come from communism that works


PLC55

Idk man, Soviet vehicles/designs are still used today.


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

All AK derivatives...


PLC55

Your right my bad. My favorite AK is the AK model MI-24. For when the taliban are in a hard to reach spot in the mountains.


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

Hahaha


Gregori_5

Shotgun for home invasions? Seems really harsh


Hungry-Ad-5803

Bird shot won't go though your walls and you don't have to aim as precisely. Vs solid rounds that may kill neighbors dog and have to be much more accurate.


coconut_12

This is why the atf doesn’t use birdshot, they need to hit as many dogs as possible


ModHunting

I don't think I'd want that particular shotgun. Seems a bit long for close quarters.


Analinguist_actual

Birdshot is not a viable self defense round. Use buckshot


Innairaton

So does invading someone’s home


aalderete2017

Well it makes sure they aren’t going to invade any homes again


eightyhate

Very based, but honestly AK can suffice for all of the above as well


NancyIsAFurry

this is unironically based though


russlejimmies2k

you can tell 99% of the comments are from peasants that live in countries where their government does not allow them to own guns :)


AutismFractal

Fearmongering nonsense. It’s an ouroboros, snake eating its own tail situation. Tell everyone they should be terrified, sell guns, give crazy people an excuse to make them terrified. Sell more guns. Pay no attention to the idea that the crazies are way less deadly without guns… All this does is tell people, “you can’t rely on any laws, crime is normal, and also just HOLDING a gun is good enough to stop everything bad from happening.” If you ARE going to protect yourself, get some training. Get a permit. Store firearms securely in lockboxes when not on your person. Make sure that vulnerable people in your life cannot misuse it, and that any threat you meet won’t just knock it out of your hand. Reasonable people know that owning and maintaining weaponry isn’t fun and games. They also don’t pressure every civilian to take up arms. Stay safe, everyone.


Due_Platypus_3913

The shotgun will,realistically,put more food on the table than the rifle.Doesn’t mean it ain’t a great home defense weapon,The sound of racking that first round will send 99%of prowlers running INSTANTLY!


Brows_Actual1225

Depends on what you’re hunting.


EricCSU

If an intruder is in my home, they will not enjoy the sound of a racking shotgun or racking slide. If the intruder is in your home, they already have the drop on you. Why give one more inch? Fire now, or wait a few seconds and become their victim? The decision to fire has already been made long ago.


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ab901

damn right.


TylerPerry19inch

“Before I schoot you, please fill out this form stating how you would describe yourself so I can pick the correct weapon, thank you.”


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I would rather have a pistol than a shotgun for a home invasion or burglary. They're gonna run away no matter what if you shoot at them, least you can do is not destroy the entire fucking living room in the process.


lasagnacannon20

if guns aren't a treath to autoritharism then why every autoritharian government completely ban them?? don't be fooled armed people are much harder to oppress , and hystory teached us that a armed popoulation always win , only with determination and coesion tho ....


Cheddar_Bay

OP is super uneducated. Nice


GrumpleStiltskon

These are actual pro-gun arguments


christhe_shark

I mean, it is accurate.


DecafSaxGuy

Yeah, I’m gonna pull out a high recoil revolver for when someone breaks into my car


Hi_ThisIsEngineering

Methinks you've never fired a gun before


Thecanman07

Goddamnit please don’t make this another goddamn Political sub


oraleddie01

Whatever it takes!! Cant bring a knIfe to a gunfight.