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Signs from Allah

Signs from Allah

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TahaymTheBigBrain

What the hell did I just read


Representative-Row44

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devout-agnostic

You quoting the Quran is like me giving you advice from a Lord of the Rings book


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Your purpose in this life is do good and worship your maker.


devout-agnostic

I can agree with the first bit


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Not believeing in your maker your good actions will be fruitless. since He is the maker of Good and giver of Mercy the Almighty


devout-agnostic

> Not believeing in your maker your good actions will be fruitless And if you can't see a problem with that then i feel sorry for you


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

If you make a perfect A.I to give food to starving people. should mankind thank the A.I or you? He is the giver of mercy remember


lmao_not_sure_sorry

Mercy? Tf? WHERE LMAO


devout-agnostic

I don't care if I get thanks or not. I would be satisfied knowing I helped people. And even if I did care I wouldn't subject people to eternal torture for not thanking me. The irony of the "giver of mercy" punishing people for eternity is beyond laughable


ahumanist777

Sounds like a slave or (idk the term) mindset


hkertenz

Okay then , physics-hu-akbar !


Sh3arheartattack

Yeah, but this feeling is mutual among Christians, Hindus, Jews, Zorastrians, Jains, Sikhs, and much more. How is Islam the one true religion then?


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

You need to differentiate their gods. and you will come to the conclusion that only Allah who is described with 99 attributes and everything else is his creation. is the almighty that made this infinite universe. anyone who hasn't gotten the message of islam will be judged in hereafter


Sh3arheartattack

How did you arrive at this conclusion? Considering the fact that Allah and His teachings vastly differ in terms of morality and the message intended to deliver compared to other gods.


yuxuan7296

That guy literally just described what every god said to their followers lol


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Morality were giving by God. Mankind are chaotic and helpless beings if they weren't have been guided.


Sh3arheartattack

Slavery, child rape, murdering infidels are the "morals" sent by Allah to us "helpess" and "chaotic" humankind.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

You thinl God Allah will not judge them for their action just because they are muslims? The Ayah about murdering infidels you need to also read when it was sent down and time event many Muslim don't read why an Ayah was send down and what events. This is Islam's biggest challange in my opinion.


pridjevi

I agree it is the biggest challenge. more ppl would leave if they see the filth in Tafseers...


POSITIVEUPVOTES

What about animals, did Allah give animals their morality too?


android1930

Whatever you say, or quote, it's not gonna change my mind. Why can't you accept the fact that some people just don't have faith? Is it hard for you cause they criticize your religion?


android1930

I think it's the second one, you are taught that Islam is the perfect religion, but you even have doubts, since is it so perfect, why are there so many who leave it, and that's making you uncomfortable


baboushcat

>I'm here to assure you my brothers and sisters that hereafter do actually exist. everything in this life is a test I assure you gobblins do actually exist, whenever you "misplace" something, it's actually them borrowing it. Recite "gobblin begone" five times whenever you scratch an itch to get them to leave.


Succ69696999

There is no reason for an Atom already in a perfect state to sepreate, bind or replicate and continue life except because of a Divine intervention. yes there is. its called the sun.


Goldcapped1

So we should take your personal experience that can't be demonstrated in any way for: a God exist, that God is Allah and an afterlife exist. Why?


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

You don't have to honestly just read the quran say your shahadda and Allah will show you his signs. There is million of stories like mine. Ever heard from a muslim who came back to islam after he was astrayed explain those coincidncedential events happend and he has seen?


Goldcapped1

I read it and it made me an atheist. There are million of stories about a lot of stuff, about christians, hindus and the other 1400 reloigions, so what's your point? There are million of stories about alien abduction and they are all pretty similar.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Its not for you to decide what happens to those in the hereafter. In the Quran it says they will be judged again and given a test on the Judgmentday. Their prophets will be brought infront of them and denouce their actions and things they attributed to the almighty


Goldcapped1

You didn't reply to anything i asked you, you are just preaching and making a buffoon of yourself


13ewa12e

>There is no reason for an Atom already in a perfect state to sepreate, bind or replicate and continue life except because of a Divine intervention. I suggest you ask this in chemistry/physics subs and I promise you that your mind will be blown. Stability is rare in nature.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Let me blow your mind. Can you explain to me why Atoms perfectly aligned to make a complex thing as DNA ? who ordered or made the law for them to stay in that state? who keeps them in that perfect state while the DNA replicate and make a complex thing as an Eye? what is the driving them?


Goldcapped1

Evolution


13ewa12e

Complexity in a system increases, not decreases. So its not that much of a blow my mind moment. It happened once and neither of us know how. To claim o5herwise requires evidence. Laws are not prescriptive, they are observational. Nature isn't tied down by laws. For example, the law of gravity doesn't determine the path of two objects through spacetime, its mass does. I suggest you read up on evolution. Its the imperfections in replication along with damage that causes mutation. The eye has survival advantages and has been selected by nature over generations and species, increasing slowly in complexity. We know this because salamander that live in caves underwent the reversal of this process, ie the eyes are a survival disadvantage and were selected against. Then there is the eyes of the octopus which evolved to work independent of a central nervous system. Evolution isn't a driven process. Its random, determined by the survival advantage it grants. Those that survive, breed more and hence change the species genepool. When enough of these changes occur, a new species branches off from it. This occurs over millenia and there is no point at which you could objectively say a new species was formed.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

I'm not against Evolution contrary you may believe. I do believe in evolution. But it doesn't explain why the atoms stay in that complex state as DNA. Why do they align Perfectly? I suggest you read more about atoms and matter


13ewa12e

Really, why did you question the complexity of the eye if you don't deny evolution? I hope you understand that sight ie perception of heat/light even in microorganisms provides a survival advantages. I don't understand the question? If they are unstable, they decay. If stable, they decay slower. Isn't that reality? The DNA was selected because its stable. Its probably not the first genetic material. And as I said before, complexity increasing in a system is the normal course. Its in accordance with the laws of thermodynamics. Entropy in a system increases with time. I don't understand what you mean by align perfectly. Whats that have to do with anything?


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

( Intelligence design ) let me explain If you had infinite amount of sand and infinite amount of time. can they ever become a Castle ? now replace sand with Atom and Castle with DNA. They need to have an Intelligence designer


13ewa12e

Its a nonfalsifiable theory. Fun fact, given infinite sand and time, its a possibility that a castle can be formed. Thats how probability works.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Its a chaotic state a Castle will never form. for a castle to form they need a designer to align those sands perfectly


13ewa12e

Why? Its not impossible, just improbable and low probability means nothing if there is infinite time and infinite sand.


Admirable-Agency-659

Cool story bro


blank_spiral

And then the Christians came and said "I have experienced some events that can't be explained as well". The Muslim stood there thinking about how what the Christian has experienced was merely a coincidence and that only the events that happens to muslims are real miracles.


civilgoldfinch

>The Muslim stood there thinking about how what the Christian has experienced was merely a coincidence and that only the events that happens to muslims are real miracles. This implies God only answers prayers of Muslims. Thats not true. Just because your a disbeliever doesnt mean youll never experience miracles. As a muslim id never say that. Just shows God exists


CLO54

Miracles are fairy tales. That’s reality.


civilgoldfinch

Reality is Miracles happen. So sad you never experienced one.


CLO54

No, that’s fantasy. Silly to believe, actually.


civilgoldfinch

Its even silly to speak to you


CLO54

Silly to believe you get special miracles…it’s like believing Harry Potter is real. Lol


civilgoldfinch

Omg do you know what. Its actually a miracle that i actually wanted to say a hogwarts joke but decided not to. Lol funny


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Christians do also believe in God, why would they be deprived from mircles and signs from their maker? My understanding is since their religion is changed prophet isa (jesus) will be brought infront of them in the day of judgement. and denouce the things they attributed to him and Christianity.


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Perfect_Jeweler_8703

I never believed in supernatural superstitions things even as a Muslim untill I saw those unexplained events. only a god that could fortold and see the future and intervene in all matters be the explanation


SonofBRKNBeyond_2003

...umm... uhh... ...err, what... a... (...) ...miracle... ​ ***-cricket sounds-*** ​ (...) ​ \*looking around, hears someone coughing\* ​ *...good for you to know?...*


lessthan1punchman

Person A asks allah a question and gets no answer. Person A asks me a question and gets an answer. Using this level of reasoning, I am superior to Allah. Technically I am superior to Allah, so I guess that logic is sound.


ahumanist777

Just tell me how your god can be narcissistic stupid and cruel to non Muslim people although they do good things for the sake of humanity?. And you f*cking muzzie please get out of here do your business, this is not your place


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

non Muslim's will be tested in hereafter on the Judgmentday if they hadn't gotten the message. Their good action will be accounted for them provided they believed in their maker


ahumanist777

Do you do sir, i don't get any interest in your Narcissistic ridiculous stupid cruel god. He sounds like a bored guy who wants to make a world fo himself with his rules.


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

He does what He wishes. He is the Almighty. "Mankind and Jinns were made just to worship him" It is your purpose fulfill it. You will have eternal amount of bliss in return his Jannah


ahumanist777

Yeah he really is, an almighty that made by 7th century arab caveman


ahumanist777

And also i don't want his jannah that filled with "blind people"


ahumanist777

Wait a minute, but when we were born, we don't know about anything in this univers, for example if you were Born in jews Family or christian family, you may devout and believe in your religion until you die let's say you become religious jew or christian. So the statement that you said to me that "non muslims will be tested in hereafter on the judgement day if they hadn't gotten the message" is so stupid and ridiculous


Perfect_Jeweler_8703

Ask a Muslim scholar. I was in the same place as you a year ago. same limbo shayatin had me. What happens to those what happens to these people? The questions never ended but after seeing these signs I am 100% certain that hereafter exist.


ahumanist777

It's not Limbo shayatin or other shits, i use morality and allah is absolutely ridiculous person or entity lol, what a narcissist entity


Minute_Cartographer9

bruh