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Term ‘sheep sh****r’ considered ‘moderately offensive’, media regulator finds

Term ‘sheep sh****r’ considered ‘moderately offensive’, media regulator finds

PatsyR99

It is also so very very repetitive. If I had a quid for every time some dull English guy has said it to me obviously thinking about what a wit they are. Doesn't matter that there was an English guy actually filmed shagging some poor sheep next to the M1 in Yorkshire north of Sheffield!


EverythingIsByDesign

I actually feel pity for people when they call me a sheep shagger because of the lack of ingenuity.


bertiebastard

There was also one caught humping a goat near Bidston on the Wirral.


Dodgyi

I watched some girl do a tiktok piece about this and all the cases in the last twenty years or something were in England! Also and I don’t know if it’s true but it stems from a time when sheep rustling was punishable by death so when people were caught they’d say they were shagging it and not stealing


DodgyDoner

I imagine its more based on the fact we are fairly rural and have a lot of livestock. Same reason Kiwis are called sheepshaggers. If we were fairly rural but instead farmed more crops it would be about fucking out relatives, like East Anglia


penisofkerrykatona

that isn't true either, it's just a way to make welsh people look like thieves and degenerates


CableCore1

Here in Yorkshire is where the true sheep shaggers live! Or maybe family fuckers works best...


Frogloggers

That's not too far off from Derbyshire, just sayin'.


bertiebastard

It might have been funny in 1950s when it was first used. But FFS England get some new material.🙄


_-_0___0_-_

We shag them, but they eat them!


warnocker

…..what’s it like eating my spunk


Homegrownandy

I enjoy the classics


bertiebastard

It shows your level of intellect, when you have to drag up 70 year old jokes to amuse yourself.


Homegrownandy

Does it. I think you're just showing how bitter you are mate.


bertiebastard

Prefer lager myself, never been a bitter man myself.


Homegrownandy

Wheeey. Now we're talking


BadgerIII

I think it's more tedious than anything, it gets very dull hearing the same insults to Welsh and the language.


ToughBacon

Anyone actually get bothered by this? being called one only makes me feel better about my own insults.


Redragon9

English people only stereotype the Welsh as being stupid or being sheep shaggers. I consider it quite harmful


ToughBacon

good point, i feel like it does add to the 'welsh people are stupid' discourse....little do they know though.


[deleted]

Just as harmful as stereotyping the English as oppressive colonialists who constantly seek to undermine Wales


Redragon9

That’s not a stereotype, that’s just English history.


[deleted]

Proving my point. Cheers pal. I guess Welsh people are violent colonialists and slave owners. I for one do love to partake in my yearly wicker man sacrifice wherein I burn captives alive for the Gods. /s


Redragon9

Difference is, the Welsh were not what they said they were, but the English were, so you’re just proving yourself wrong. No need to put ‘/s’ in there though man, it’s a bit obvious that you’re being sarcastic like.


[deleted]

What does that even mean? Both countries have horrible histories, like *gasp* every country in the world. No one’s innocent and we happily partook in colonialism and slavery. We can’t smear an entire population for atrocities that happened hundreds of years ago which the main people didn’t even take part in. Not every Englishman was an employee of the East India Trading Company.


Redragon9

You can find barely anything horrible in Wales’ history. England on the other hand have caused millions upon millions of deaths. India… South Africa… China… Ireland… All those deaths are on the hands of the English government, and some English people will ignore and/or defend it.


LaunchTransient

>barely anything horrible in Wales’ history. I mean, we were a haven for pirates and smugglers for a few hundred years or so, in the days of yore. And I don't think the various Welsh princes were particularly kind to each other when they weren't fighting Normans and Saxons. >All those deaths are on the hands of the English It was the British empire, my dude. It wasn't just the English, there were also Scottish, Welsh and Irish along for the ride and profiting off it. Granted, our impact was considerably smaller than our neighbor's, but do you really think that the slave ships were only docked at Bristol, and that Newport's and Cardiff's docks remained moral beacons of egalitarianism and freedom?


Redragon9

The British empire might as well have been called the English empire. It was the English government and the English monarch that controlled it. Wales and Scotland were merely colonies that were involved in it by proxy. Wales had no voice on the matter, so why do you act like they did?


[deleted]

You realise that Wales was a happy member of the empire right? These atrocities can be attributed to us too. Any history that involves invasion and war is an atrocious one, Welsh people came here likely warred with other tribes, probably partook in slavery or just sacrificed people.


Redragon9

Wales was not a happy member of the empire. It had no choice in the matter.


donotkickmonkeys

Jesus fucking Christ. You know how you have a full belly and a smartphone made in a Chinese sweatshop with suicide netting? That's not because you're just better than the Chinese and deserve it. That's you, and me, and the English, benefitting from a system that fucks them over and has for centuries. Our hands are dirty too, pal.


[deleted]

Anything to defend our horrible past. These people will deny anything to portray their fantasy of a left leaning, innocent welsh utopia. They honestly believe we’re a colony


[deleted]

I literally just told you some examples. Human sacrifices, slavery, partaking in colonialism


[deleted]

And my local town literally has a monument dedicated to William Nott, “the hammer of the Afghans”. By hammer they must have meant he did his best to build infrastructure or something, right?


LaunchTransient

I mean, if the current lot voted into Westminster are representative, there's a fair number of English who view us as tax leeches and basically foreign because we have the audacity to have a distinct language and culture from the run of the mill Anglo Saxon stock. I daresay that a certain referendum from '16 would probably be quite indicative of said individual's opinion of the Welsh.


[deleted]

Yes, the English boogey men. It’s certainly not as bad as you portray and it’s meaningless. Most people in England quite frankly just don’t care that much, they aren’t openly hostile. I’ve certainly heard more awful things said about the English in Wales than I’ve ever experienced as a Welshman in England. A few stupid and insulting jokes are nothing to actual animosity and hatred. You seem to have a false perception of reality my friend, nobody is trying to sabotage our language or our country, we’re doing that well enough ourselves


LaunchTransient

It's nowhere near as bad as it was 60-70 years ago, agreed, but you don't have to be the shooting-a-Welshman-with-a-crossbow-outside-city-limits-after-midnight kind of English in order to be antagonistic towards the Welsh. I don't have a problem with English people *per se* but as a nation they can be best described as an abusive partner in our relationship. >nobody is trying to sabotage our language It's been done as recently as the 60s, and a general disdain and neglect of the language "because it's not necessary" or "just speak English" is corrosive enough in the modern day. >I’ve certainly heard more awful things said about the English in Wales Oh we absolutely have some awful troglodytes as well. Rural Welsh communities can be insular as all hell, and if you aren't a Jones or an Evans or a Davies, good luck to you trying to integrate. I had particular difficulty growing up in Mid West Wales (Ceredigion), because my accent is so soft that I sound more of a neutral English accent (but my Welsh accent comes on very strong when speaking Welsh). As a result, I kinda sat in a limbo between the Welsh and English groups. So yes, I know that the Welsh can at times be insular and unfriendly. >nobody is trying to sabotage... ...or our country, The drowning of Tryweryn, the utter neglect (and sometimes intentional dismantling) of our infrastructure, the contempt against devolved governance... It's hard to agree with you. It may not be intentional, but England as an entity really is apathetic of Wales at best, and domineering at worst. Don't take this as me saying "all English people are the devil", I've met many and made friends with many extremely nice English people, I'm simply saying that as a collective, England has a fair number of things to change in its attitude before it can remotely be regarded as "friendly" towards Wales.


PuddingShort

It bothers me to some extent because then we have to go through the boring bullshit of me calling them a cunt and them getting upset about it. Again.


ToughBacon

it's almost like people get offended when we retaliate, when they were the ones being a cunt.


03453037407confess

Hahahaha


citalopromnight

We fuck them They eat them


loz29d

Being called a sheep shagger doesn’t offend me in the slightest. I’m so unbelievably proud to be Welsh that I don’t think there’s any Welsh specific insult that could offend me at all.


cf11blue

Just boring & unimaginative


bigmartyhat

Out with the velcro gloves! In all seriousness, heard it so many times, really doesn't bother me. I've also never heard anyone Welsh actually take offense to it so... It's been done, we have our set piece responses...what's next?


slippybanjo

It doesn't really bother me I just laugh


Mwyarduon

It's offensively boring. It's not even reserved for us! Any region with Sheep gets called that. The insult is more in how little effort got put in to it.


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