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DreamArcher

Good thing the cops brought gas to put out the fire.


thisisstupidplz

Our education system is all stick and no carrot. They literally don't know how to handle this with deescalation. Like any competent principal would have cancelled the school day.


Brjgjdj5788

It seems your country can't have a moment of peace


Wunder_boi

It’s a gigantic country and everyone has phones in their pockets nowadays. I’m not sure it was ever super peaceful. You just didn’t hear about stuff like this before everyone carried a video camera.


[deleted]

America has always been a violent, authoritarian, and corrupt society underneath the niceties of our political norms. Norms that are starting to crumble under the weight of reality. You ever wonder why most of the really important decisions in American history where made by the supreme court or by something like the president sending the army to guard black kids trying to go to school? It's because America is incapable of making social progress without somebody forcing us at gunpoint. It only ever happens after there's so much chaos the system has no choice. Before that point it beats, arrests, kills, and tortures people. I often feel like Americans have totally forgot the civil rights movement, which was the last time we had genuine civil unrest on a nationwide scale. We "remember" what the police, politicians, courts, and right wing citizens did but we don't really choose to understand it. Never mind acknowledge that none of it ever went away. The same good ol' boys who beat the fuck out of Martin Luther King grew older, got promoted, got elected to senate, and then put their children in their previous place. We are haunted by the same ghosts as always. The amount of police brutality towards largely peaceful demonstrators you saw last year speaks for itself. And keep in mind, all of it was aided and abetted by the federal government. America is a democracy of convenience. It excludes any genuine voice for change. If not with violence then with corruption and systemic capture. Deep down we were never any better then the banana republics we set up in central America. A plutocracy controlled by a landed elite with no concern for average people, and a militant hostility to all change.


Woshiyoutairen

Uh…how do you really feel? Lol. Having lived in banana republicans and dictatorships, I can assure you america, and most democracies, are exponentially better. These children would be dead in some countries. There would be no video documentation. And you equate a few cops using a taser or pushing kids to what happens in banana republics? You need to live a few years in China, my friend. Or Russia. Or Saudi Arabia. Or….


TheHungryHeathen

Just because there is something worse doesn’t mean what we have can’t be better.


Woshiyoutairen

Yeah, but that is not was posted. It was ‘we suck as bad as anybody else’. And that is BS. But we have to do better.


[deleted]

[Adam Curtis put it better than me](https://youtu.be/84P4dzow1Bw?t=6120) America thinks it is special. America it is not special. America is *sheltered*. And that shelter is crumbling. The moment America faces any serious internal crisis it reduces itself back to the core of any political system: violence. Brutality, coercion, corruption, these things are part of American life. Subdued only by the wealthy and relatively stable nature of our society. Like any country the moment that stability recedes (and it is) then that democratic façade will fall back into what it originally was. It has multiple times in our history. It will again. America is not unique. It isn't a matter of it being "better or worse", it merely is.


TheHungryHeathen

Quote the part where it says we’re the worst.


Woshiyoutairen

I would quote this line ‘Deep down we (the USA) we’re never any better than the banana republics we set up in Central America.’


TheHungryHeathen

That doesn’t say we’re the worst country. It says we aren’t any better than the governments we helped establish in Central America. Never says anything about Russia or China or being the worst.


Woshiyoutairen

I never said he said we were the worst. I said he said that ‘we suck as bad as anybody’. And that is BS. And the banana republics kill high school age dissidents. Wake up, dude.


NameAlreadyInUse9

Cool. There are worse places, so it's OK. Friggin enabler


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Woshiyoutairen

Again, that is bullshit. Since 2015, there have been little more than 100 killed. And many were armed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/12/children-police-shootings/ The rape allegations have been denied by the school. I have no idea whether they are true. But what you are saying is that police are not doing anything about pedophilia and rape. That is unlikely. But if you want to find places where children are killed in much greater numbers by police and where pedophilia and rape are prevalent, then go to the banana republics that the OP claims we’re are no better than. To argue for change does not mean lying.


cuzimmathug

>But what you are saying is that police are not doing anything about pedophilia and rape. That is unlikely. Sorry fam, it's actually the most likely. Look anywhere from high schools to colleges up through large organizations. People dont want to deal with "these things." They dont want pedophilia or rape to be associated with their institution. Much easier to bury it. If you truly believe it's unlikely after everything that's come to light in the past 5 or so years, then I am probably not going to succeed pulling your head out of the sand with my comment.


NameAlreadyInUse9

309 ppl killed by police in 2020 in the USA. 309.three hundred and nine


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> I can assure you america, and most democracies, are exponentially better. "Better" inasmuch as we remain wealthy and stable. Whenever that slips we go back to brute power. This is a country founded by slave owners and that expanded through genocidal violence. For minorities it was explicitly authoritarian until very, very, recently. And most honest observers will acknowledge that only extends inasmuch as those communities do not ask for anything that would actually impact the overall power structure. Whenever America faces actual internal crisis it goes back to the violent slave driving society it was for the first 200 odd years of its history. "China is worse" doesn't mean we aren't like this. Or that we couldn't easily become that hideous in a moment if our government felt it needed to. Like it always has. There is power in America. And it is violent. We're just so pacified and rich it has little reason to use that capability.


Woshiyoutairen

Yeah. That’s nonsense. While founded by slave owners, those same people promoted ideals that allowed us to grow and become a country that defeated slavery and have a civil rights movement, that continues today. That is dramatically different from many other countries. Your pessimism and description of america going back to a slave driving society is hyperbole of the worst kind. But at least you acknowledge improvement, though you say it is only ‘very, very recently’. Minorities have suffered in America, but it is getting better, and I don’t see it reversing, and I see most other countries as further behind in progress.


cuzimmathug

You know there are people still alive who were born into slavery right? I'd agree with their description of recently.


[deleted]

> While founded by slave owners, those same people promoted ideals that allowed us to grow and become a country that defeated slavery and have a civil rights movement, No they didn't, they created a system hostile to change. That's why we needed a war to end slavery and a decade of violent civil unrest to end segregation. People talk a lot about the "founding fathers" (a creepy as fuck, nigh religious, description by the way. "Father"...cult of personality nonsense). But go read what they actually wrote. They thought poor people were too dangerous to be allowed to vote, and they created the federal system explicitly to prevent them from ever holding any significant power or organizing any sort of actual internal challenge to the landed aristocracy. People like Alexander Hamilton wrote this very, very, specifically. They knew what they were doing. The point was to create a system incapable of evolution, incapable of change, incapable of wide reaching reform, because they thought democracy gave too much power to the disenfranchised. Their solution was to create a stagnant and internally contradictory system that today is failing utterly in every possible fucking way. > Minorities have suffered in America, but it is getting better, Good one.


total_insertion

>You need to live a few years in China, my friend. Or Russia. Or Saudi Arabia. Or…. *Beat drops* >This is America... don't catch you slippin now /s


RedDeadRevengeance

You know those banana republics are that way because of the United States destabilizing them to promote dictators willing to do business with the US right?


_Canid_

Even in a lot of European countries I was surprised at the levels of things like systemic racism and xenophobia compared to the US. Things just so normalized they aren't even able to recognize it right in front of their faces - even while talking about how bad they think it is the States. Hell the first couple of places I tried to rent in Austria I was told "we won't rent to foreigners" as soon as we'd meet in person to look at a place (had to have my wife, who is German, do all the initial looking and talking while I stayed out of the picture completely before we were able to find something). Even a lot of the listings for rentals just flatly stated something along the lines of "no foreigners/no \_\_\_\_\_". Or for example, when taking a train from France back to Germany and crossing through the immigrant ghettos on the French side; it wasn't uncommon for German Polizei to then board and just check the identification/passports of Black passengers while ignoring everyone else. But yeah the person you are responding to likely hasn't ever seen much of the world and how shitty, violent, depraved, corrupt and terrible much of it is in comparison to the US (and most democracies) to be able to get through a free wheeling diatribe like that to that extreme. Yes there's a lot to criticize about everywhere - and we should criticize where criticism is due, especially governments. But criticism itself also means relatively nothing in a democracy. It takes no bravery. It takes no action. It takes no risk. There's no consequences. And hell, nowadays you'll likely even get upvotes for it from the very same dystopic states that need the criticism the most and which have to fund troll farms to support their truly autocratic states by pushing the ideal that democracies are an illusion, a lie, and are terrible. I get your point.


RumHamEire

You live in one of the most wealthy, open, progressive, least corrupt, diverse, democratic and free places in the world. Can it do better? absolutely! But don't make out like its hell on Earth. A lot of people live in that hell and they would give everything to be in your position.


[deleted]

The *world* is hell. America's just relatively cooler because its wealthy and powerful. As that is fading it is going back to corruption and violence as a way of life. Like any country. We are not special, we are not unique, we are not exceptional. Nation states are organized violence and organized corruption, we are no different. As the system grows increasingly dysfunctional, as the economic situation deteriorates, as our internal cultural psychosis grows more and more extreme, America is reverting to brutality and corruption as a means to solve all problems. This is a force of nature akin to a tidal currant. "Better or worse" doesn't mean anything, my point is this is happening right now.


FreeRangeAlien

Much different from the rest of the utopian world


FreeRangeAlien

Only if you think what you see on Reddit and the news is what we are all doing every day.


unpopularthrowawayab

We’re an absolute massive country, of course there’s always something happening


anti-establishmENT

Our country is huge. Most of this type of shit doesn't affect the majority of the county. That's why people don't care until it hits close to home.


Minecraft_Launcher

I’m often sad about this. I wish everyone could just get along.


Cyril_Rioli

Home of the brave


FiddyDollas

Do you realize how big the u.s is?


ser_name_IV

how’s your country doing?


notimpressedwreddit

Decent people have no problems.


BattleReady

Land of the free. Free to pretend like they give a fuck enough to do anything about it yet Sandy Hook was 9 years ago. Americans don't actually want anything to change. If they has balls they would have exercised their 2nd amendment. All this talk of saving the kids. Fuck that - they want dead children. Police brutality and murder has been around for SOOOOOOO long and yet no one does a damn thing but cry about it online in the sanctity of their homes. America doesn't really want to change. No matter how many times they try to say they care, just look at any headline. Shit. Hole. Country. But they WANT it. You get what you deserve.


Scoobydo666

Just turn your phone off


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Where you from?


Spammyhaggar

Everything is like black mirror now everyone with there phone out.


Klcna2

But without it we never learn the truth of these situations.


LDKCP

Cop absolutely escalated at this point. Further context may show there was more to it...but the more I see, the more that cop wanted to use the tools on his belt.


Minecraft_Launcher

If you can’t subdue a high schooler who has been pepper sprayed without the use of your taser, you’re ill-equipped for your job. Seriously. That, and there were like 5 cops there. Just completely unnecessary Edit: can -> can’t.


LDKCP

> If you can subdue a high schooler who has been pepper sprayed without the use of your taser, you’re ill-equipped for your job. This may require an edit. Unless you mean that police are required to be incompetent, which sometimes seems to be the case.


Minecraft_Launcher

Haha I agree with your last statement. Thanks for the catch, it was supposed to be ‘can’t’.


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hungrydolphin101

To be completely fair, the kid was charging at them it would've taken two of them in the midst from of a chaotic situation to take hold of him.


Perfect_Aim

That high schooler was his size, may have even had some lbs on him, and was already on top of him when he deployed the taser. I’d love to see how you do in a hand to hand match against him.


TheDerbLerd

Maybe cops shouldn't be 5'6 Mother fuckers with a napoleopnic complex then


Godsendviii

Bro what do you have against short people… Maybe kids shouldn’t try to fight cops? Kid got pepper sprayed and started moving towards the cops like dude what do you think is going to happen?


TheDerbLerd

I mean the cop blindside shoved the kid and then immediately pepper sprayed him. But I guess that's cool, cops basically just jumping people but with a fucking utility belt


Godsendviii

Yeah the cop did shoved him and that’s on the cop but he didn’t pepper spray him right away. You can see he started to move forward in a fighting stance and then got pepper sprayed


TheDerbLerd

So he should have what? Been shoved by behind without even knowing who did it and just ignored it?


Godsendviii

He clearly knew it was a cop and yes ignore it Do you want the kid to fight the cop? Because that has higher repercussions. Idk about you but unless my life is in grave danger. I ain’t fighting a cop. I’d rather see that cop in court than me going to jail.


5nowx

thinking that the cop will face any type of repercussions, even after the video got viral, is the biggest overdose on copium that I have ever seen.


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Maybe cops should better implement crowd control tactics. Beating down the future of our country trying to protest is not ok.


Godsendviii

I agree so why not have both? There’s fundamentally wrong with how some cops behave and how some kids behave in America. I think that stems from the way they were raised and lack of discipline


5nowx

bitch, I was raised under strict discipline, and at some point, you have to break, maybe when somebody pepper sprays you for stepping out for your schoolmates. I think you are not seeing the forest for looking at the trees. Yeah, a kid fucking reacted to a cop that pepper-sprayed him in school when they are protesting the punish of one of their own, a victim of sexual assault. It's wild to the extent people go for victim-blaming and suck on the boot a little more.


Perfect_Aim

Great take, what if the aggressor was 200lbs and the cop was 180? What if he was 220? What about 260? Cop probably just should’ve picked another line of work, right? I guess you don’t think there should be any female cops either, since they’d generally get outmuscled by men of any size. Turns out, you don’t get to pick who you have to detain, so you’re equipped with tools that make it so you can take away a size/strength advantage. Sometimes they have to get used. Maybe don’t step up on somebody with those tools?


TheDerbLerd

Again you're missing the part where they're children, and these cops should be have the physical tools to solve these issues. Actually, no not even, they should have the emotional tools to deesclate. And step up on somebody? All we see in the video is the cop shove the kid from behind, then pepper spray him for being upset about being shoved, then tase him for being upset about being pepper sprayed.


Perfect_Aim

I must’ve missed the rule that says you can’t be a threat until you’re 18. You’ll need to have a word with the 200lb 16 y/o wrestlers of the world. He got shoved because he was interfering with the cops doing their jobs. Getting pepper sprayed should’ve maybe knocked some sense into him, but instead he decided to put his left foot forward and get ready to fight. You might not know what a boxing stance looks like, but it’s that. Crazy to think you’d get tazed for trying to fight a cop, huh?Why do you think he deserved a hand to hand fight for being aggressive toward somebody just trying to do their job?


coldsummers13

When i was 17 i had been doing mixed martial arts for a decade was 180lbs 6 foot 3 and was in much better fighting shape and form than 2 of the cops at our gym. The fact people think these guys are harmless is absolutely ignorant.


TheDerbLerd

Also these cops are clearly fucking power tripping, one literally puts his taser in the face of the convulsing teenager and stands over and yells at him. If that's really the fucking shit head you wanna be defending than by all means, I'm sure he'd appreciate his boots throat shined


Perfect_Aim

When did I defend that? I said the use of force was warranted.


tremens

Did grey sweatsuit actually even do anything at the very start? It looks like he's just walking and all of a sudden a cop shoves him from behind, and the instant he turns around he gets pepper sprayed, then it continues from there, but was he doing anything that warranted the shoving and shit in the first place?


millitantshitposter

Nope, he was existing while black.


CONSPICUOUSLY_RED

Are your eyes working? He tried to fight the cops & literally continued to go at one after he got pepper sprayed. Kid argument is fucking stupid. He's hardly built like a kid.


Poliobbq

Please don't be so terrible. It makes Jesus sad.


Perfect_Aim

Incredible how life works. You act aggressive towards cops, they pepper spray you. You remain aggressive, take up a boxing stance and rush a cop after getting pepper sprayed, you get tased. The humanity!


millitantshitposter

How does that boot leather taste?


Perfect_Aim

how generic. let me know if you come up with some critical thought to go with it


millitantshitposter

You're so indoctrinated you can't see what's wrong. I pity you.


Perfect_Aim

what a convenient way to avoid any productive discourse. even if i’m wrong, at least i’m willing to interact thoughtfully with other perspectives. too bad you hide behind your assumptions too much to have a real view. I pity you.


MagneHalvard

There is no productive discourse with people like you who are made of uncle seed. You literally aren't worth talking to. Narcissist trash.


maladjustedCanadian

That kid that got tased - who by the way is not really a kid - instigated the whole thing by interfering with job police was doing. Everything after that is, like, fucked around, found out kind of thing. I dont understand this need to misinterpret what everyone can see clearly. It's like an epidemic. People jumping the shark with their "narrative" that everyone then picks up. Insanity.


LDKCP

"Fuck around, find" out is now just being used to justify any level of unnecessary escalation. There are much better ways to deal with things, especially if you work in a fucking school.


maladjustedCanadian

You are telling me, you look at that video, the hype, the screaming, the chaos, tension already in the air, police closely followed while doing their job in a fucking school, kids around ready to jump and you think that behaviour is normal? In what hellscape do you people live if this is normal to you?


LDKCP

I think it's the conclusion to living in a place where victims of sexual assault are punished and people upset by that are dismissed and set upon as if they are the problem.


Ralphinader

Tell me, whats the cops job at the school? To keep kids in line? What is this prison?? Let them protest and demonstrate, its a fucking protected constitutional right. Stand aside and let them do their thing. Instead they escalated the situation because they HAVE to be in control at ALL times.


maladjustedCanadian

Again, video is there for everyone to see. Police arrested one kid for whatever reason. The others reacted because... "they know him, he's not guilty"? Is there some rule that say, if more than 5 random people disagree with the arrest, police has to free up? Jesus - lmao


Sam_E147

Tasing someone is supposed to be a deterrent and to put out a message to people in the vicinity to say “dont fuck with what the cops are doing” this was damn near a riot and with only two cops in the situation there’s not much of a better way to handle it. Kids should not have started to get violent, end of story.


maladjustedCanadian

It's super clear that after he was pushed away, that "kid" went after in a fight stance. Again, there has to be something in the water when people can watch a video and come back with such bullshit interpretation.


IamaFunGuy

Leaving and calling for backup is the way to handle it.


jho1993

Is that from your….training and experience?


QuitArguingWithMe

What makes him "not really a kid?" That's pretty dehumanizing.


maladjustedCanadian

He is big enough to beat up that officer. Ergo, not a kid.


iamodomsleftnut

Lick them boots cunt.


IamtheSlothKing

Keep lickin daddies boots


Immortal_Johnny

Congrats to those cops and that school on creating a whole generation of kids who will hate the police for the rest of their lives.


LordFedoraWeed

yeah, then we can finally defund that shit, and give the money to where it actually helps woho!


TheScholarD

Gotta love the trauma these kids are enduring at the hands of people not trained to handle moody teens. If they wonder why there’s such a big F**k the police sentiment in the county they’re part of the problem.


Bbustedwz

Did they just completely forget these are kids? Like fuck can you at least try to calm things down before you're willing to snatch up a 15 year old girl by the hair?


JohnDoethan

Looks like Sometimes the school shooter is the cops.


QuitArguingWithMe

They were viciously pushing away anybody that was trying to render aid to the unconscious kid on the ground.


JohnDoethan

That's typical cop type stuff. Might actually be in the handbook.


CONSPICUOUSLY_RED

Lol what the fuck are those kids gonna do to render aid? Scream at the person on the floor, slap them around? They medics now? He also wasn't unconscious, he got tased & stayed on the floor for his arrest.


slickestwood

Weird, the last few weeks I've been told again and again about a certain high schooler who was totally able to administer medical aid in a stressful situation.


iGourry

At least that's better than dragging him around and shoving other students on top of him. Look, I know you can only get hard when you're licking boot but please try to pick your battles a little better, everyone immediately knows you're a bootlicking troll when you post stupid shit like that.


Minecraft_Launcher

I hate the truth in this statement


Sam_E147

Name one actual example where a cop was shooting kids in a school🤦‍♂️


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HippocraticInsight

Malicious compliance. Deadly force=deadly force


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DreadPirateZoidberg

Holy shit! Cops did that to my kid I would be absolutely livid. This makes me so angry! They’re kids! What the hell are they doing pepper spraying and tasing kids! Jesus Christ, I don’t know what else to say. They’re fucking kids man! Edit: Lol all these bootlickers trying justify cops abusing kids. You people are fucked up man.


QuitArguingWithMe

And not once did they even bother to check on the kid. They just started attacking any other kid that tried to help.


DreadPirateZoidberg

When they dropped him and his head smacked into the floor? Fuck man, that kid is in for a long recovery if he survives.


RichardTasty

Cops kill kids, hive five and get a promotion on a weekly basis. They could kill your kid and not even get a slap on the wrist. Why show restraint when there are zero consequences for their actions?


felixjawesome

They could kill your kid and 1/3 of the American public will call them a hero, "your kid should have just complied!"


Sam_E147

Way to generalize an entire occupation. I don’t really like cops to begin with but cmon, really?


RichardTasty

Sure. Let me clarify. 1 in 10 cops may happily take a chance to murder a child for sport. The other 9 will watch him do it, not interfere, falsify evidence/testimony to cover up the crime in court and rally around the murderer as one of their own. That is the nature of the occupation. Where did all the good cops go? The ones who uphold the law and arrest their corrupt colleagues? There is more evidence of bigfoot.


Sam_E147

Id love to see your statistic on that one bud😂


RichardTasty

No you wouldn't. What you'd love is for me to waste time looking up stats, cases, studies and articles for you to simply dismiss it all. Not my first rodeo, so you can blow it out your ass.


Perfect_Aim

This is maybe the most accurate microcosm of US political discourse. Present unsubstantiated evidence, get opinion disregarded, refuse to provide source, disregard opposing opinion. It’s poetic, really.


Plus_Journalist_70

This makes me livid and he’s not even my kid. I cannot imagine how his family feels.


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Tabiki

I would be downtown demanding resignations that the cops were called in for protesting kids and not a sexual assault. How are we going to ignore that these kids are standing up for something and the cops are just there to shut them down? They have a right to protest, police have no right to use excessive force on a minor. The cops shouldn't even be there, if anything they should have sent a representative or called in some actual people to communicate, not the boys in blue with tasers and mace.


CptMisery

Some cops need their asses kicked


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CptMisery

I'm not arguing for a lawless society. I'm arguing for people to beat the shit out of bad guys that the law won't punish


AVBGaming

not sure if you’re american or not, or maybe you went to a nice school, but many kids at my high school carried knives. There were several times kids were arrested for having guns with them. Sure, maybe most of them can’t legally vote, but they’re not just innocent children. They can hurt and kill just as easily.


Money_Distribution18

Good to see kids get real life lesson on police brutality and the fact that they aint there to protect you just the system.


accelaone

The kids are alright


No-Freedom-5787

Aaaaaaannd none of those kids will ever trust the cops ever again. Great job, American cops just CANNOT stop fucking up huh?


xOneLeafyBoi

So do we call the school and ask them if they have kept these resource officers around the children.


MildlySpastic

Did he really try to square up a cop?


Vinlandien

Teach them young not to trust the police, and that they are a dangerous gang who are above the law.


felixjawesome

Not sure why this is a controversial statement...cops lie all the time. Cops abuse their authority and treat everyone they encounter as if they are guilty and it's on you to prove your innocence, rather than on them to prove a crime has been committed as described in the constitution. If they want to ruin your day, your life, your family's lives, they can with impunity. I've got family that are on the force. I know they aren't *all* bad and many genuinely want to help their community... it's not an easy job...they experience the worst of the worst of our society....yadda yadda yadda... But so long as their are "bad apples" out there wearing the badge, so long as they keep breaking the social contract "to protect and serve" there can be no trust.


Sandwich00

I mean he was just walking and cop attacked him from what I can see. And from what the rest of the kids could see based on their reactions! Those kids are terrified! I am disgusted. These cops are out of control, on some power trip maybe.


notimpressedwreddit

You are whats wrong.


ItsTimeToExplain

You just keep posting this under random comments, are you going to elaborate and explain your point of view? Or are you too busy licking that boot?


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ARS01

Police en force beating on children protesting sexual abuse. US Police force and school system sure are good at staying on brand.


SlappyClappy69

Don't let pigs in the school, they get mud everywhere


HereForTheMemesB

Looks like the cops found the solution to school shooters. Take the kids out themselves!!


rparvatikar

That prison looks a lot like a high school.


Dazzling_You8666

Damn. Chick in the blue hair caught a LOT of that mace


Forsaken-Asparagus-1

Any school that seriously let these hired goons come in and do this to their student body needs to be shut down until they replace each and every staff member. If I was a parent of one of these students I would be on the phone with a lawyer ASAP. Good for those kids for standing up for what they believe in. And absolutely fuck those cops. They should be ashamed of themselves.


Gavooki

And people said school doesnt prepare young people for the real world. . .


Smooth_Year_1986

That kid squared up with a police officer… I’m sorry, but you can’t do that.


riderofthestorm123

ACAB


PunishedAres

Law Enforcement shouldn’t ever have access to tasers in a children’s public school building, period. Shame on any department that allows using it on children, Absolutely wrong. Now the children shouldn’t have ever put their hands on Law Enforcement, they would’ve made out so much better blocking off doors and holding arm to arm publicly pressuring those officers and using their First Amendment right. This situation is outright horrendous, shame on the officers and the school. - a Title IX, Campus Public Safety Officer.


CovertFt

“Title IX”?


PunishedAres

Title IX means Public Education and Schools which fall under the Clery Act. Colleges have Title IX Sheriff’s, Title IX Campus Police, and IX Public Safety Officers. We have to be trained by a state and/or federal board every year on Use of Force and handling students (among other issues).


okamanii101

Ok so what alternative do the cops have when they are being agressed on by not children but highschoolers in a similar weight class? You want the cops to shoot the kids instead?


PunishedAres

Within my state (which I personally agree with for minors) it is hands on even if you need multiple officers, up until the person calms down or if you have to make your detain. Speaking from experience my FTO explained to me an incident involving a 7” 3’ foot student who was on “Wet” (a narcotic) around 2019. In that situation he called backup and had every available officer just tire out the subject. Because the gentleman was underage responding officers were instructed no Less Than Lethal, just hands on. The reason being that the cons of Media Coverage, Protests, and Insurance Liability, outweighed carrying LTL inside of public schools. You have to pay out more to insurance, have to keep officer on overtime and double time for training, etc.


SmallCheasyD

Ya want the cops to bum rush the school shooters?


PunishedAres

Tasers do not work on School Shooters, Firearms do. Any use of a Taser is almost never needed when you are on a High school campus involving children. In my State our duty belt is as simple as Handcuffs, a Notepad, and a Firearm. There’s a use of force continuum which if you follow you can deescalate students. Often just hearing them out is all that’s needed. Someone of authority willing to meet with them and discuss community issues. There are students I have had issues with that are now persons I go out of my way to have conversations with all because I stopped and listened to what made them upset.


iamodomsleftnut

Cop deliberately escalated and will rot in prison or hopefully worse. Justice is blind but carries a sword for fucks like this.


SmallCheasyD

Iv been tased, I guarantee it would have stopped me from continuing a shooting spree


felixjawesome

That's nice, but there's always the chance you accidentally make the shooter go super Saiyan and they start teleporting all over campus blastin' away everyone. Bullets won't stop them, because they are too fast. The only way to stop them is to tase yourself and hope you go super Saiyan too and battle it out in the sky above the quad while trying to minimize the collateral damage because it's the taxpayers who will have to foot the bill to rebuild the language arts building.


5nowx

so here also are we going to say self-defense? you are talking as if the kids should be scared of the Law enforcers. I swear some people just like to bend down to the boot and close their eyes and hope this time doesn't step on you.


Fun_Wonder_4114

Oh look, another department/city where every single cop is a criminal.


mrs_spacetime0

This is so insanely fucked. This is fucked when it's happening to adults. THESE ARE FUCKING CHILDREN. They are being assaulted, traumatized, left to their own devices to react to this situation as it's happening. What do you expect? Children trying to use their voices see this bullshit happening to their friends and you DON'T expect absolute chaos? How? How does this happen? And how did I already know I was going to be watching CHILDREN of color being thrown around. No Justice. No Peace. No mother fucking racist ass police.


s_y_s_t_e_m_i_c_

This x1000


Im_Talking

Cops in schools. Wtf. America is such a shithole.


Comrade_Witchhunt

Again, fuck the police. If you know a good cop, you're deluding yourself.


AllModsAreBasturds

Fuck these pigs. Cops have no place in schools.


Groofyboi

I thought it said decapitated and was like 'damn america really unlocked a new level of police brutality'


wyvern-rider

Wtf is wrong with your country.... Someone please make it make sence.... These are kids!


bklimko

What a tragedy. Untrained morons enforcing something,,, not sure what.


Xceleron

Get cops out of schools!! They help no one. They hurt kids. Someone needs to stop this!


idfkbwtf

It feels like it's every fucking day now I hate watching this country


MEMSMAN1969

Tried to fight a cop. Got tased. Got arrested. Dumbass.


Overall_Process_5860

Fucking pigs


DyBNaps69

If that was my son going after a police officer, I would have said taser him to.


kel123456

And you’d teach your kid to that anyone in authority can abuse their power. Way to go.


gimbbles

I don't understand why the 60 to 70 people dont just over power the 4 thugs beating up kids.


Apprehensive_Toe_457

Wow somebody's out of a job, better start looking for a new one. Professional courtesy only goes so far.


cureworldpeace

So police are now using tasers on children while they’re at school protesting in-justice, or am I missing something?


jac9017

Yay cops lol great job you stopped some kids


Bob_Om

He’s lucky that guy didn’t catch fire. Many incapacitant sprays contain flammable solvents in them. These dissipate quickly when sprayed on a subject, but if the subject is hit by Taser barbs a short time after exposure it can cause the solvent to ignite before it airs off. Never seen it happen myself. But I’m aware of cases of it happening on a number of occasions. In the UK we’re trained to only use the two together if the situation warrants it - ie there’s a huge threat to the cops and this is necessary and proportionate to balance the risk of fire on the subject against the risk of harm they’ll cause to the cops if the action isn’t taken. Got to be honest, I wouldn’t be using spray or taser in that situation on the video myself.


quillotine42

I get so tired of seeing it's just kids comments. Kids can fuck you up just like an adult can. Kids are more probable to do some crazy shit because they don't think about consequences. The kid that got tased jumped into them and started pushing them are they just supposed to take it and hope someone doesn't take my gun while he's jumping into and everyone is surrounding me. This is a high school not a middle or elementary school stop with the it's kids argument.


Redclicker

Grabbed the one girl in pink backpack by her hair like he was in a street fight. What the actual ..? These cops are so far over their heads. This is ridiculous on so many levels there's no time to type it out.


porsj911

Omg yes you need to taze and beat the kids, they might get hurt if they arent in school.


The_Urbane_Gentleman

You shouldn’t try to assault law enforcement


Necessarysandwhich

cops shouldnt be attacking school children


KESPAA

Yeah, but this dude was very obviously charging the officer.


Vinlandien

> Yeah, but this ~~dude~~ **child** was very obviously charging the officer. FTFY


KESPAA

Yeah that's fair enough. Doesn't really change the point though.


Necessarysandwhich

The officers shouldn't even be there


KESPAA

Lmao moved those goal posts pretty quick there bud,


Necessarysandwhich

No , the cops should not have been there - the only ones who got hurt are the ones the cops hurt


KESPAA

Ok bud.


QuitArguingWithMe

After being pepper sprayed in the face. Kind of hard to direct yourself after that.


somebeerinheaven

Law enforcement shouldn't be law enforcement if they lack the ability to control children without using a taser.


The_Urbane_Gentleman

Lmao


somebeerinheaven

Fully grown men in a job where physicality is supposed to be important are incapable of restraining children in a safe way. Lmao indeed.


LDKCP

I don't think that kids needed force. The police put themselves and children in more danger by escalting.


Cpt_Rabbit

Go fuck yourself boot licker


The_Urbane_Gentleman

I sometimes smell my new pair of Italian loafers. Does that count?


KimJongKevin

All that awful screaming…tase them all.


DJ1962

Maybe they all need a class for 15 minutes on what NOT to do when a cop asks you to step away. These kids think this is a game!


thefirstwizardsleve

Mob mentality


Waterboardbabies0321

I’m just curious what exactly he thought would happen charging at a group of cops?


kalimashookdeday

Weird....another idiot kid thinking he can box the cops. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


Raifsnider

r/WinStupidPrizes