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Sounds like MGTOW

Sounds like MGTOW

jcarules

It’s almost like they just want an excuse to be violent to women. When is it ever ok to just go out and punch ANYONE? It’s called assault!


DonLeMiester35

Usually when they say hit women they mean hit women back who hit you...dingus, thats equality, equal rights, responsibilities and CONSEQUENCES.


jcarules

But that’s not what they said in the post, and no, it isn’t implied because some men really are just looking for any excuse to hit a woman!


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What? It’s a joke to say that if someone is a feminist you can hit them? It doesn’t matter if they don’t mean it, it’s the fact that was the first thing that came to their minds. Also, how are jokes about hitting women funny when it’s a very serious issue in society that women have to worry about? I swear, some people think you can excuse anything with “it’s a joke!” It’s a terrible argument, and not to mention, no it is not “always” a joke for some men! If it was, women wouldn’t be physically assaulted as much as they are! Also, I swear to god if you respond to this with “you’re taking things too seriously” you’re either a meme or a man with no actual experience on the subject!


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One, “chimping out on me”? Wow, totally predicted that! Already answered that. Also, you do not get to decide what is important. What might seem trivial to you is not to women who have to worry about men assauting for literally no reason, so when men start joking about it. It strikes a nerve to say the least. And two, they didn’t mention getting hit first and even if they did mean that, the first that came to their mind was still about HITTING A WOMAN. Of all the thing feminism could make him ask was “can I hit you IF you hit me?!” All this with no mention of the girl hitting him, or even mentioning physical violence! If someone tells you they’re a feminist and you’re first thought is “Oh sweet! Now I have an excuse to hit her if she hits me!” It shows that violence against women was literally the first thing that came to mind. That isn’t funny in a day and age where women are scared to say no to a man about anything because there’s a not insignificant chance he could assault her. Also, never call women “females” it’s dehumanizing (I’m not explaining that for the hundredth time. If you want to know, LOOK IT UP YOURSELF!).


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Really? So my older sister who was walking through the park when she was a teenager and was sexually assaulted was assaulted for a reason? And all other women who have had to deal with that crap completely unprovoked had a reason? What’s the reason? Or are you going to be pedantic and point out why rapists do what they do? Didn’t think I needed to carefully curate my comment to exclude common phrases when I CLEARLY meant the women were assaulted for no JUSTIFIABLE reason! But no, go ahead and pick and the tiniest point you could make, call me stupid, and just drop out like you aren’t ACTUALLY doing it because you don’t want to think of actual arguments. This is literally the most pathetic response I’ve ever heard! It’s even worse than the guy who tried to discredit my comment because of a typo. But good job in pointing out how you had no real argument, but didn’t want to admit you were wrong. You really saved face there! I’m sure NO ONE will notice how full of shit you really are! /s


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RandomUser8467

The men who say this shit are the kind of men who want to hang on to their privilege and feel like physical violence is their best avenue for doing so.


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DonLeMiester35

Usually when they say hit women they mean hit women back who hit you...dingus, thats equality, equal rights, responsibilities and CONSEQUENCES.


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Holy shit no need for mansplaining you NVM 💅💅


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If you say anything along the lines of, "equal rights equal fights" just admit you've always wanted to beat women.


spinsterchachkies

Men say that when they hate the idea of women being their equals so they threaten them with actual physical violence. And those aren’t her friends.


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spinsterchachkies

No


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spinsterchachkies

Stop hitting people. Violence is not the answer. Just walk away.


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spinsterchachkies

Jesus dude. Wtf? How did you internationalize this comment so deep. What you want me to say “YEAH HIT WOMEN”? I said violence is not the answer. So what your mom did was violent as in wrong. Maybe seek some therapy dude. Sorry bro that sucks


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spinsterchachkies

Good luck sorry for your pain


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spinsterchachkies

I’m not a Wendy’s or a therapist. He’s the one that went off not me.


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Exactly it’s a lose lose situation


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equalityworldwide

Again, you need to provide sources.


equalityworldwide

It's definitely not 50/50. Sources?


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equalityworldwide

Lmao, so no source then?


equalityworldwide

Here's MY sources: [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/fastfact.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/fastfact.html) [https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2021/03/government-of-canada-legislation-targets-intimate-partner-violence.html](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2021/03/government-of-canada-legislation-targets-intimate-partner-violence.html) [https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS](https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS)


EquasLocklear

It's not like their grandfathers needed feminism to punch their wives for not making dinner on time.


aapaul

Holy crap Stephen sounds like a sociopath.


library_wench

Case in point: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOWBan/comments/nlg71k/domestic_violence_is_the_womans_faultfor_talking/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


SearchLightsInc

"Stephen, at what point in recorded history have men not physically threatened and carried out attacks on women? Also, Stephen is Step hen and i can never unsee that"


stressed-mathnerd16

I know the answer: misogyny


SpadfaTurds

EqUaL rIgHtS, eQuAl LeFtS


19780521reddit

they live in the fantasy that women wanting equality means they would treat men as bad as they treat women: being strong enough to hurt them without any risk


boredbitch2020

Would they hit and beat up their 5'5 manlet buddy? Is that equality? Or do they know that makes them an asshole? Because i think they know better, snd juat really want to hit women


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GermantasLTU

Sexism at it's finest I want benefits but you can't get any


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mercinarary

The point is that getting hit back in a fight is always the example misogynists go to. It adds nothing to the conversation.


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Because it is simple and direct and makes the point clearly you numbskull.


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mercinarary

Slapping in public maybe. I have never hit a man. But if you look at domestic violence 1 in 3 women have experienced violence from an intimate partner. So actually men already are hitting women. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women


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mercinarary

Men are still more likely to hit their partner than vice versa


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mercinarary

So you believe women are more likely to hit men? Why? Is this based on personal experience, observed experiences? Do you have any studies to back that up?


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mercinarary

https://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/ If you read the full thing, it says: > the 2000 National Violence Against Women Survey by the National Institute of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey published last February—have also found that some 40% of those reporting serious partner violence in the past year are men. AKA 60% are women. > In his 2010 review, Straus concludes that in various studies, men account for 12% to 40% of those injured in heterosexual couple violence. Men also make up about 30% of intimate homicide victims—not counting cases in which women kill in self-defense. That means women account for 60-80% Men make up 30% of intimate homicide victims, so… women make up 70%


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mercinarary

You moron, you didn’t even read the first paragraph > The major points of this review are as follows: (a) women’s violence usually occurs in the **context of violence against them by their male partners**; (b) in general, women and men perpetrate equivalent levels of physical and psychological aggression, but evidence suggests that **men perpetrate sexual abuse, coercive control, and stalking more frequently than women and that women also are much more frequently injured during domestic violence incidents;** (c) women and men are equally likely to initiate physical violence in relationships involving less serious “situational couple violence,” and in relationships in which serious and very violent “intimate terrorism” occurs, men are much more likely to be perpetrators and women victims; (d) **women’s physical violence is more likely than men’s violence to be motivated by self-defense and fear**, whereas **men’s physical violence is more likely than women’s to be driven by control motives**;


mercinarary

The report isn’t based on reports, it’s based on a survey where they ask males and females if they’ve ever been hit or abused in their relationships. Scroll to Survey Methods https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/183781.pdf