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Because whitewashing a war criminals image is the American way.

Because whitewashing a war criminals image is the American way.

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eiggaMAD

Lol every fucking billionaire rn. Tbh when this crew dies I hope all their shit is unleashed. Sooner the better. #problemchild


Shronkydonk

Bold of you to think they haven’t already figured out how to keep their heads alive in jars like in futurama lol


BenSlimmons

Would probably look more like the Lucy Liu bots with downloaded consciences that are even more robotically evil than their human nature would’ve allowed in real life.


Additional-Walk750

Jesus christ, now I'm terrorized *and* aroused.


eiggaMAD

That their goal, they want you in that state.


ragnarlothschrute

I called someone out on their IG account for this with Powell. His response was he (Powell) apologized…..for those few wars an how many deaths? Then the classic “it’s my page” don’t call me out.


ir_blues

Oh i am here, call me out too: They just gave the americans the war they collectively wanted. As good leaders do, they acted on behalf of their people. In this one, it wasn't even the military industry, the people wanted to go kill someone because "terrorists" flew some planes in some towers. Sure, some people were against it, a few, but that was probably the one project they did during their whole time in office that had the most support among all americans. That wasn't something the Bush administration is to blame for, thats something the whole US of A is to blame for. And those who tried to wash themselves clean afterwards by pointing at Bush and Powell and Co, are the worst. At least accept your collective guilt.


Kanedrick_Lamelar

You don’t think manufacturing support from your citizens is a vital part of getting away with genocide? Every American should accept blame for the extreme bloodlust of the 00’s, but Bush and company did their utmost best in creating that environment for themselves to be able to go to war EDIT: accidentally used an ableist word. English is not my native language


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brettbri5694

Uhhh you’re conflating the Iraq war with the War in Afghanistan. Over 60 reps voted against action in Iraq and there were weeks long protests. My guess is your vivid memory is of 5th grade and you were wrapped up into whatever your dumbass friends and family were bloodlusting over. I was in high school when we went to war in Iraq and I remember there even being a student protest in my hick-ass Republican town.


driatic

Nobody cares about your made up memories. No matter how vivid they might seem to you, it sounds like that propaganda actually had an effect on you. Made you into one of those idiots.


tinytinylilfraction

But the memories... they're so vivid.


dizzyelk

Really? Cause I remember it too. Everyone was saying Ole Shrub was just trying to win his daddy's war...


ChardeeMacdennis679

You might have a point when it comes to Afghanistan, but certainly not Iraq. They launched one of the largest propaganda campaigns in modern history attempting to drum up support for the Iraq war, but they barely made it over 50%. That's not collective approval. ​ >That wasn't something the Bush administration is to blame for They lied about almost every reason they had (responsible for 9/11, WMDs), and those lies were the only reason they had the support they did. So how are they not to blame?


ir_blues

A gallup poll from february 2001, one month into Bushs reign, 7 months prior to 9/11, found that 52% of americans were in favor of an invasion into iraq. That number barely changed, they made it to around 60% in support. What they managed to do is decrease the amount of people who opposed an invasion and increase the amount of people who "didn't have an opinion". The majority wanted war, a huge part just stayed silent and yes some went out to protest. In a country like the US a few % of the population quickly make up millions. Prominent americans spoke up against it, called out the lies, NATO allies like France and Germany voiced their opposition. Didn't change the tone in the american public, because they didn't really care. The american public pressured the administration to go to war, not the other way around.


ChardeeMacdennis679

That's interesting, I didn't realize that number didn't fluctuate much after 9/11. But I still don't see how you can claim that a slim majority pressured the Bush admin to go to war. There were numerous policies that had significantly higher support, and the administration wouldn't even discuss them. But when it came to war, you think 55% support caused them to throw their hands up and declare that they had no choice but to follow the will of the people? It's absurd. And if that was the case, then why the massive propaganda campaign? Why all the lies? This was all incredibly obvious for anyone who lived through it, so you're either young, foreign, or lying.


cookiemonsieur

How old were you then


driatic

Everyone protested the war in Iraq. Everything pointed towards Afghanistan as the target which was ignored after going into Iraq. They lied about Iraq, there were massive protests all throughout the US and around the world. Quit your bs


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Belligerent-J

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests\_against\_the\_Iraq\_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War) Oh look almost an entire year of huge protests before the invasion


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driatic

I was in high school in 9/11 lol so I was very much alive to see the propaganda, hear all the brainwashing, and the crowd that shouted "We will never forget" Except they forgot who was responsible. They forgot about the 1st responders. So instead of assuming you're older and therefore more informed you should assume that your age is affecting your attention span.


ZombieL

There was an intense propaganda campaign propping up the war effort. Sure, blame the blood thirst of average Americans as well, but that does not mean the administration and contemporary media machine didn't have their own agendas and influence over the climate and politics. They lied, knowingly and repeatedly to the public. They fueled and directed the existing outrage to their own ends. Don't give them a pass on that.


JuniorSeniorTrainee

> They just gave the americans the war they collectively wanted. This is how far I got. Anyone make it further?


do_not_engage

As someone who lived through those times... this is not accurate. BARELY half the country approved of the war, and that approval was based on a constant stream of news media lies. If the Cheney/Bush admin hadn't pushed it so hard, it never would have happened. We would have focused on being rallied around rebuilding NYC instead.


ir_blues

Bush took office in January 2001. In February 2001, half a year before the 9/11 attacks, before anything had happened, 52% of americans were already in favor of an iraq invasion. People just wanted to go to war. And went crazy over it after the attacks.


do_not_engage

Edit: formatting and typos First off, that's exactly what I said - barely half the country, 52%, approved of it AFTER Bush was elected and had been pushing for it for his entire election run. That's **very different** from **your claim** that the whole country wanted a war *before* Bush/Cheney pushed for it. Second, I lived through it, and can show you the [polls from the era](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjF0I7twNvzAhXnmOAKHWAnAK0QFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rand.org%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Frand%2Fpubs%2Fmonographs%2F2005%2FRAND_MG231.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3Sl03KooWiyCmedMAYHtee), and I can tell you in 1999 *no average American* wanted a war. The first Iraq war in 1990 was a disaster. Nobody wanted another one. Before Bush, *nobody* was talking about invading Iraq again. Not regular people and not the news, anyway, just the military industrial assholes like Powell and Cheney. People thought we wouldn't have another war for decades, if ever. Under Clinton, most average Americans thought we had enough military might that there would be no reason for any country to go to war with us. We didn't count on us being the ones to go to war with with a much smaller country, in 1999. Kids - like me - were signing up for the military thinking it was free education because there was no chance of a war. Bush/Cheney pushed super hard just to get that 52%. It never got much higher - even after the attacks, with the attacks and the lies, it never got over 60% approval. *It took all those lies, and an attack, just to get that much - without any of that stuff, without Bush/Cheney/Powell pushing for it, no way anywhere near 50% would have wanted it.* Proven - [here's](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjF0I7twNvzAhXnmOAKHWAnAK0QFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rand.org%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Frand%2Fpubs%2Fmonographs%2F2005%2FRAND_MG231.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3Sl03KooWiyCmedMAYHtee) a 2002 research paper going over the numbers - **in 1999, before the lies, nowhere near 50% wanted it.** Regular-ass people just want jobs and families and houses. They don't want wars. The people at the top, who profit off of weapons sales and defense contracts and prisons full of cheap labor, the ones who own and get money from the TV networks, THOSE are the people shaping the country. Regular-ass people just want regular-ass peace, my man.


Ru71kl0l5

Why the fuck do you think there were so many protests against the war? This is such a dipshit take.


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igor0702

Good Bot


fuzzyshorts

As a Black person, I'm embarrassed by (and for) the number of people I'd once respected for posting fluffery about Powell. You fucking doofuses.


shy_monster_1312

Holy shit, another black person on reddit. Shall we go piss on his grave together?


coolguyCEO

Let's all do it at the next black people meeting.


Additional-Walk750

I keep hearing about these...


fuzzyshorts

We mailed out the event schedules last w.... wait... damn, they're right here ... next to the EWF albums that I borrowed from my cousin. I'll drop them in the mail today, I promise.


Additional-Walk750

Does that mean I'm invited? I never get invited.


buzzwallard

Well I, for one, do not hold you responsible for what other Black people do. If you insist though would you please do something about Clarence Thomas.


fuzzyshorts

We don't claim that fucker. He's been on your side since the first Bush


buzzwallard

My side? Clarence Thomas on my side? Oh man you got me so wrong you're crashing your whole argument. What you got going on in there? Knock knock! Pay attention, pay closer attention. Way way closer attention to what's going on around you.


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buzzwallard

I thought so too. I wonder though how any one with their eyes open and their wits about them could think that all white people are on the same side. And then further to go on and suggest that all white people are on the side of George W Bush or that George Bush or for that matter Clarence Thomas are on the side of all white people. You have to wonder where the head's at of anyone who could entertain such a ridiculous notion.


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buzzwallard

I disagree. White people are abused by capitalism same as people of color. To say that all white people benefit from capitalism more than all black people is absolute nonsense. Why? Because there are so many poor and disenfranchised white people while on the other hand there are quite a few successful people of color. These successful people of color are taking more benefit from the system that the poor white people. Or ... come on. What contorted logic refuses to acknowledge that. There is more commonality between poor people of all races than there is between the people of any one color. Clarence Thomas has more in common with Brett Kavanaugh, David Steward has more in common with Jeff Bezos, than either black man has with poor black kids and either white man has in common with poor white kids. Poor black kids have more in common with a poor white kids than either have in common with rich kids. But to sustain the safety of the moneyed classes they are raised to hate each other because of their color. And so many people are falling for that line that we're just going to go on with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, and the whites blaming the blacks and the blacks blaming the whites -- TOTALLY missing the point.


Shaque

> I disagree. White people are abused by capitalism same as people of color. To say that all white people benefit from capitalism more than all black people is absolute nonsense. Why? Because there are so many poor and disenfranchised white people while on the other hand there are quite a few successful people of color. This is a silly argument. There a more white people in America than there are Black people in this country so of course they’d make up a majority of the “disenfranchised.” Per capita black people suffer more than most other races. You say there are quite a few successful people of color, but by your metric there are way more white people who are successful than there are black people. I guess it must be fact then that white people benefit more under capitalism than black. To your other points - since racism is a feature of capitalism’s insidiousness I think you’d be remiss to disregard white supremacy’s interest in maintaining the status quo. Class divides may prove stronger than racial divides but both have to be tackled.


buzzwallard

The great thing about taking on poverty is that it's actually more solvable than racism. We are never going to eliminate racism. Have you actually talked with a racist. I mean a \*real\* racist, not some unfortunate slop who just made a regrettable slip of the tongue that has the whole class in an uproar. I mean a real racist. You can 't fix that. But you can lift the poor. We've done it before and given the disproportionate number of black people then they will be disproportionately helped.


heureka_85

They're Iraqis, they don't count. Hell, are they even human, are they even white? .../S


Mickeymackey

We're white on the census? Half Iraqi here, I'm only Arab whenever I step into an airport.


ForgotPassAgain34

Thats a classic, you're whatever fits the narrative better at the situation


KKublai

Conservatives believe that, but unironically. If you asked them to tell you how many Iraqi lives equal one American life in their minds I bet they'd even be able to give you a ballpark (really high) number.


heureka_85

Not only them I'm afraid.


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globalwp

Case in point.


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globalwp

You may not be American or conservative, and I usually believe that all life is equal since I’m not a racist idiot, but the life of the lowliest Iraqi beggar is objectively worth 1,000,000 times more than racists like you.


7uring7es7

Colin Powell could have resigned. Now he just looks like a stooge for Bush. He had a chance, unlike all the people he killed.


SpookBrah

and there will be complaints of "this is not the time for that" when a dark picture is painted of him..


Rand_Al_Thor87

Powell is probably the least egregious of the Bush crew, but still a participant in pushing a useless war, then later regretting it "aka" what McNamara was to the Vietnam war. I hate how when one of these dudes die, every person in power regardless of political preference just seems to forget all the shitty things they did and fluff them up.


EldritchLurker

I mean, because they're generally part of the same imperial war machine and voted for it and all that, they can't take a principled stance without serious issues... Obviously, they'd be called unamerican and a hypocrite, but there's also a definite vibe of "we gotta stick together or we're screwed" with a lot of politicians and their warmongering bs. If one of them takes another stance, they'd likely be removed from office (it would offer a lot of ammo for any possible political opponent), demonized, and have their own legacy when they die being much worse off overall.


abrandis

... history is always written by the victor...


RayAnselmo

As I commented a couple of days ago, "Colin Powell dies of COVID complications; half a million Afghans attempt to stifle laughter."


Meritania

For it was not the arms, men & soldiers that defeated the Martians but the smallest of our allies, the bacteria that quietly evolved with us.


Patient_Reply

“I think we agree, the past is over”


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Quebecdudeeh

This is America.


BloodBath_X

The true American way!


Smullcutepox

Honest question : Bush making decisions aside; How complicit and guilty is the population of a country that partakes in unjust wars? Like at the end of the day what made the 3rd Reich possible was the population complying with their leaders and I'd argue that the same is true for any Colonialist Nation or Imperialist Nation. What do you think?


Inside_Double5561

Normally yes. But American are pretty du.. endocrinated. I bet they tell them refusing to bomb irakian was like a commusatanist rape of liberty and Jesus, and that anybody who refuse the idea is a traitor or a french coward.


Oddjibberz

Complicity is measured by awareness so I would presume this is a "fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... won't get fooled again!" situation for the non-western powers. We were given a mulligan on Vietnam and another for Iraq. I'm not sure we get a 3rd. The world is weary of our military might and as American's, our future existence hinges on making the correct decisions in the voting booth. Equity and tolerance and rights are all inter-personal political games we are playing right now compared to what would happen if another super power felt compelled to pre-emptively strike us to protect themselves - a doctrine we've established already.


boringdystopia1984

You don't love America do you?/s


shy_monster_1312

Is no the correct or incorrect answer?


oh_no_aliens

I hate when people say that. As if I fucking care about a capitalist bootlicking shithole.


[deleted]

Same for Obama, hell libs already treat him as the second coming of christ.


Inside_Double5561

"Yeah ! We elected another corrupted mass killer but this time he's black ! US has changed ! Back in the time we only had white corrupted mass killer." Hang in there, one day, you'll have a corrupted mass killer with a vagina ! There is hope !


Pre-Nietzsche

First black President? Sad it took this long, but a great achievement. Same ol’ warmongering bullshit? Yeah. Obviously. It’s a slow process pushing the American left into the *actual* left and away from, what seems to be, mostly identity politics.


[deleted]

>First black President? Sad it took this long, but a great achievement. Why is an imperialist warmongerer a "great achievement"?


Pre-Nietzsche

Why even quote my comment if you’re going to be disingenuous? You’d have had a better chance at hooking me if you hadn’t. Good talk though!


[deleted]

What is disingenious? I asked what was such a great achievement about Obama?


boston_homo

>libs already treat him as the second coming of christ. I'm no proud "lib" but I usually hold my nose and vote D because the other option is even worse. I had high hopes for Obama but the administration was a disappointment. I don't think of Obama with religious fervor and I don't know any people who do.


[deleted]

>because the other option is even worse To *whom* is the democratic party better for?


opiatesquadalt

Compared to republicans? Literally everyone who isn't wealthy lmao Welcome to 2 party season bud


[deleted]

In other words they're better for some americans. So here is the question; why do you support imperialism when it benefits you?


opiatesquadalt

First of all, I'm not American. Second of all, I'm not sure what you expect the average American to do to stop imperialism lmao I guess throwing away a vote for a party that has no chance to win somehow absolves you of supporting imperialism lmfao What a goof I should have looked at your post history before I replied you seem to spend 8 hours a day on reddit being downvoted for the worst takes I've ever seen


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Ah how convenient, the americans *have no choice* but to propagate and support the system that benefits them.


Qbopper

Wait, are you arguing that voting in America is inherently supporting the system?? Like idk harm mitigation is a thing why would you not vote for the less awful option in the meantime while also acknowledging that the system as is won't be fixed by electoralism It might be easy for someone to say that voting is bad and you're supporting the status quo if you vote but, like, when you're a minority? Idk I think I'd prefer the guy who's going to gut the country wins over the guy who's going to gut the country and try to take away even more of my rights because I'm lgbt or whatever


[deleted]

>Wait, are you arguing that voting in America is inherently supporting the system?? Well voting for most of the parties, how isn't it? You're literally casting your vote to get the said candidate in power. >Like idk harm mitigation is a thing why would you not vote for the less awful option in the meantime while also acknowledging that the system as is won't be fixed by electoralism But acknowledging something does nothing, while voting does something, so by those actions you are supporting the system.


royal_dansk

This already happening now. That is how they are portraying him already.


a_r_burns

Streets will be named after him. Statues in public squares will bare his likeness. He will be touted as a strong wartime leader.


bikinimonday

Fuck the Bush family.


EHWfedPres

I can't believe a nation that treats its war criminals better than its whistleblowers is so fucked up...


solesme

but...... Powell paved the way for the first black president to be able to drone strike civilians in the middle east.


HegelsBikeMechanic

Look at Powell. I haven't even heard anyone mention that he was the architect of the invasion of Panama. They mention Iraq as a mistake because they have to, but even that they glossing over.


Mad_Hatter_92

But Obama is safe tho bc he’s part black. Doesn’t matter how much Middle Eastern blood is on his hands


LLambguy

He claimed "God" told him to attack Iraq. You didn't believe him? /s


SevenSoIaris

You mean that Operation Iraqi Freedom wasn't about freeing the people of Iraq?!?!?


shy_monster_1312

No, it was about freeing up billions of dollars for defense contractors and other shady people.


SevenSoIaris

I still don't understand how they got away with calling an invasion "Operation Iraqi Freedom". I guess they were freeing them from their mortal coils.


shy_monster_1312

Because anything with the word freedom in it triggers some weird response in most Americans, they become docile and easily manipulated by war propaganda and humanitarian double speak.


SevenSoIaris

They make us pledge allegiance to a flag 2160 times, but that definitely doesn't instill nationalism.


shy_monster_1312

Nope it just produces smooth brains.


Q8D

Whats even funnier (or sadder) is the initial name for it, Operation Iraqi Liberation.


Additional-Walk750

Wait. I've seen this movie...


Negative_Relative251

But nothing has changed. As soon as US pulled out of Afghanistan, they have started a cold war with China. We need to be fighting climate change, not spending billions on fuckin submarines or hypersonic missiles. The media is fuckin cancer and people who watch it are sick. There is little to no hope left for humanity.


FausttThaArtist

News does this now...


RobloxIsBest007

Sometimes i want to believe in Hell in afterlife.


Outrageous-Repeat163

а я верю в перерождение. Только подумайте, душа белого рассисткого президента исламофоба и сексиста рождается где-то в Ираке или в Афганистане в роли маленькой девочки, которая вынуждена заниматься проституцией и не имеет каких либо прав. Без денег и власти, голодная. Лучшее наказание!


RobloxIsBest007

Just one lifetime of a little afghan girl wouldn't be enough. I wish he is forced to live and suffer in the life of all of whose blood he has on his evil hands.


Outrageous-Repeat163

Согласна! Тогда пусть будет череда неудачных перерождений, чтобы познал все страдания своих жертв. А главное ничего не будет помнить и задаваться вопросом, почему к нему жизнь так несправедлива!


Age_Terrible

For American presidents this is a contest.


Catoctin_Dave

Corporations funded Grover Norquist's whitewashing of Ronald Reagan. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/3/20/958314/-


Singer-Such

And he never actually won an election


AlertBanjo

Non American here. Didn't Bush win the 2004 election?


theatlantaboy

Yes, Bush won 2000 and 2004 along with popular vote in 2004 against John Kerry


Singer-Such

If the votes had been counted properly in Ohio and Florida, he would not have won those elections


theatlantaboy

Lol I’m a left leaning independent, but Bush won those elections. Especially 2004, John Kerry was a lousy candidate


Singer-Such

https://freepress.org/article/ohio-2004-election-case-study I was there and I know what happened


Singer-Such

I agree that Kerry was a lousy candidate though


oh_no_aliens

...And the blood of tens of thousands of Americans.


WeisserGeist

... let alone his kill rate on death row as Governor of Texas... Christian man, my fat arse.


Additional-Walk750

What's more Christian than wholesale slaughter of those deemed unworthy?


Jaysus91

The american people are arguably more complicit in americas perpetual wars than a public figure that serves for four years.


Boggie135

He served the full 8


Present-Guarantee182

Colin Powell and Bush were more complicit than any non corporation or politician combined.


Jaysus91

Really? What have you done to combat Powell and Bush? Look at the French, they protest the injustices of their government. Whereas Americans just relish in the murder of Middle easterners for oil and money.


FilmYak

Nah. They talked about watergate when Nixon died. And Powell’s death absolutely brought up mentions of his speech to the UN convincing them of the Iraq war. It won’t be all they talk about, but it will be mentioned when bush dies.


MegaChaosBlast

Still my favorite thing the Onion has done https://youtu.be/c0mS5I-j\_Gc


TechnicallyTrue8

It is the human way.


Spookwagen_II

RemindMe! 3 years 21 days


patriarchalrobot

🦀🦀🦀


chappersyo

Exactly what has just happened with Colin Powell


Max-Pirate5454

Also a couple of American soldiers...


reclaimthis

Isn't this already happening?


password_is_burrito

It’s the big philosophical question: should we or should we not hope and acknowledge that Darth Vader “still had some good in him”?


Oddjibberz

I was shitting on people supporting Powell all day yesterday and then Trump had to go and release his vile statement. Fucking gross. I feel like I've been slimed on You Can't Do That on Television with that monster echoing even a remotely similar sentiment.


1minuteman12

Don’t forget the dead Americans!


LocalAreaCrank

I still can't wait for it. It can't come soon enough.


TheCatWasAsking

We need more people like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5xJuyrUIIA), unafraid to deny Bush any amount of safe space, confront him with his actions.


[deleted]

Hey look! It’s what happened with my English teacher


rtfmpls

Watch [Irak, destruction d'une nation](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt13959762/) if you want a detailed history of the West meddling with Iraq policies.


RealKingOfEarth

Sure the media might, but I don’t think he’s getting off easy at all with the public. There’s more likely to be a week of the media talking about our reaction and debate on how he should be remembered.


S_Belmont

So pretty much just the same as now then.


nucklepuckk

Every day George W is free furthers the farce of a just world.


altctrltim

Runs in the family


capitalismorlife

I'm a shy monster. I once tried to stick up for the führer.i got shot down. Now I just disparage people.


capitalismorlife

But I shouldn't be held accountable. We meant for communism am I right?


capitalismorlife

Nice try china. You all suck.fuck off


296cherry

Are you ok?


capitalismorlife

I love everyone who tries to dis me on reddit.its not like we didn't shake up the stock market or anything. Just. Saying.


Shaque

It’s because as a country we cannot reconcile the truth of Bush’s presidency (the country started a war built on a lie, kidnapped and tortured both the guilty and innocent, and lost both wars after spending trillions propping them up) with this grand idea of America’s moralistic superiority. The country’s actions with Bush at the helm were morally bankrupt but the media can’t honestly say the truth. Instead they smooth out Bush’s legacy for the benefit of the country’s interest in maintaining both a certain internal image for Americans to latch onto and an external image to project onto the world. It’d take a fundamental change in how we address our faults for the media to reflect back onto Americans a true picture of the country and its actions. The new debate over “Critical Race Theory” is an example. A non-insignificant amount of Americans can’t handle hearing the truth of America’s racial history so instead have twisted a rarely heard of legal theory into something unrecognizable.


lonely_stargirl

Whitewashing? How? What does this have to do with whitewashing?


capitalismorlife

Yah but let's ignore what saddam did to the Kurds. Yall let us betray the Kurds when dumbass orange hair was in office. Feels good to be a hypocritical piece of shit, doesn't it?


shy_monster_1312

Shut the fuck up liberal. This isn't about Sadam, its about American war criminals history being white washed. And fuck Trump, he's on that list too.


capitalismorlife

I choke on my führer's balls , I love the führer. He has orange hair and you can't talk about reality with out him. fuck off.


shy_monster_1312

There are no Trump supporters here, only socialists. You mentioned abandoning the Kurds which was the work of trumps stupid ass and i don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to but I sure do wish you could step out from behind your keyboard. Eat a dick, liberal.


capitalismorlife

Why do I have to be a liberal, so you can get more karma?


shy_monster_1312

Because you sound like an ignorant liberal,liberal.


shy_monster_1312

Don't be mad at me cause you're dumb.


capitalismorlife

I thought we agreed this was the start of a labor party.


Present-Guarantee182

Your boy Saddam was literally a cia asset clown. All the shit he did was US govt approved


capitalismorlife

Was it, lets see the proof. Moron.


ICantGoOnIWillGoOn

Not just the American way, but the western way.


capitalismorlife

I'm not supporting communism as an exchange to capitalism. You are. I have nothing to defend.


shy_monster_1312

Shut the fuck up. You don't even know what you're talking about. Go away liberal


capitalismorlife

Fuck you and your face