By - rohitdhanorkar
“ but the people are retarded” is now my new favorite quote of this year.
Is this Bhagwan Rajneesh?
As an Oregonian I can confirm this
Wait so u make oregano?
Well he didn’t have the thyme so…
You are so sage in your ways.
I have to be at times when folks don’t know where it’s cumin from
No, he trades organs
*skyrim music intensifies* You are Argonian?
Bhagwan Rajneesh has the wares if you have the coin
nO tHis iS noT bhAgwaan rAjneesH tHis iS oSho
I'm so glad I watched Wild Wild Country so I can understand this reference
Gotta watch Wild Wild Country from Netflix
This made me laugh out loud in a dark room at 3am, just… golden. Just so. This is the best thing I’ve heard all year lmao
Democracy works best in a society where the people have some degrees of critical thinking, not critical brain damage like now.
lol we had critical thinking capacity before? its always been a dog and pony show run by sociopaths
Worked in like 1700-1800s when voters were all well-educated men.
Well what do you suggest that you would need a college degree to vote... Then the underprivileged part of society will revolt because their views will not be taken into consideration
Not suggesting anything. Only that democracy was intended for informed voters.
Suggesting ‘democracy worked’ when the majority of people were disenfranchised is the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard.
All that was was a dictatorship by ballot of the ruling class. It wasn’t democracy, because it didn’t accept the input of c90% of citizens.
I agree. I think recent elections are showing how fucking dumb people are, though. We shouldn't disenfranchise, but somehow Trump was nominated and actually won. I told my coworker before he was nominated that there's no way there's enough dumbasses out there for him to win. Not only did he, but he created a cult of personality. That's fucking scary.
Maybe not that extreme a suggestion as that but a little more than just "can you hold a pen?" being enough to qualify you to have a say would be a start in my eyes.
I'm actually a big advocate for middle education requirements for voters in my country. It's not much, but considering the rate of drop-outs is high here, it seems like it would make a big difference.
We have free education here tho, university included, and the level of the subjects is pretty meh. Almost no one has an excuse to not have the requirements by age 25 or so at worst.
>the underprivileged part of society
If the idea of democracy (or any other system for the matter) is not to create a society where noone is underprivileged then it is a failed system from a self-sustaining point of view.
What has always driven social development is a striving for survival and reproduction, and sociopathy.
That's just... What?
Where the fuck did you get that idea?
Sort of shit you come up with when you're high as fuck.
Recent and historical evidence suggest otherwise.
How many Trump voters revolted against Trump? Because if their ignorance, they were easy to manipulate.
We *didn't* have social media where influencing is so so easy. Now that we have social media, critical thinking is a must.
They may not have had social media to make the process of influencing vastly more efficient, but there have always been plenty of other avenues for propaganda and political influence to serve the interests of the ruling class
Yes democracy is good on paper. But people are so easily brainwashed and manipulated by media, politicians and different celebrities.
Democracy is good and should always be the goal in modern civilization. Good citizens make good leaders. However in the case of the USA, it has often been “garbage in, garbage out”.
It's pretty much the same nearly everywhere with democracy tbh. The effects are bigger in the US because a) It's a superpower b) It's a populous country.
\*laughs in indian \*. You wanna see a shitshow ? You are more than welcome to see it here.
In short, politicians are old, corrupt, very conservative, blame girls for getting raped, get too much into religious issues and not what really matters, most of them have criminal records (murder, rape ,abduction etc), resistive to change, spit out false facts like an asshole during diarrhea. I just described a normal politician didn't I ?
Thats what donald trump was trying to change.
I thought that was describing Trump?
Genuinely curious, how is it in India ? I most often see it what's happening in the USAW and other european countries, but not much, so I'm curious.
the cast system
>You wanna see a shitshow ?
Nah Rajesh I've heard about *the street*. I don't want to see it I'm good.
and idiot people
Pretty sure thats the same thing everywhere.. Instead of choosing who is the best candidate... We have to choose who is the least evil..
We, as humanity, have yet to find a truly fair system to choose our rulers that works with more than just a few hundred people.
Each day I actually believe a monarchy mixed with democracy might be the best answer we have. All can choose a prime minister, but the royalty also have a voice in the matters.
Only having a prime minister means that the guy can run away free of guilt after 4 years of fucking a country. Having only a monarch makes it so that the people have no voice of their own. One complements the other's faults.
I truly believe that unless humanity undergoes some kind of ascension into a different form, they won’t be able to govern themselves perfectly.
And that is why I like the idea of basically the Rogue Servitors from the game Stellaris. Humans retire into a life of pampering by the machines, their needs taken care of by an autonomous service grid, free to pursue whatever goal they desire. Eh. I’m just a grumpy cynic now.
And in India. And in Brazil. And in UK...
Democracy as a system has two fundamental flaws:
It fails to adhere to an absolute definition of what is "good/right/correct" and it rather defines those terms internally, making them blurred and volatile.
It lacks a mechanism that consolidates its own self-sustainability and the consistency of social progress on the basis of the above-mentioned absolute terms.
“It was better before this” is a mantra constantly chanted.
Survival bias at work.
As Churchill probably never said: the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
I mean..he's not wrong 🤣
LOL this was exactly my comment when this was posted like a month ago
The range of things people are allowed to vote on is simply ridiculous. If we wouldn't have basic rights all those control freaks out there would literally vote them away from you. The amount of things that are being forced on you by being voted on from others is fucking crazy.
Yeah they won’t admit it but most people are for majority tyranny, as long as they’re in the majority
We are seeing this sentiment grow ever so much, day by day, everywhere in the world. I don’t think humanity has quite separated from its tribalistic roots and instincts.
you sounding like the new bond villain rn fr
"Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…" Winston S Churchill
This is what happens when you go on reddit once
I love democracy
Sheev is that you?
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
You weren't wearing the armadillo hat, were you?
No this is Patrick!
Because you are retarded lol
No I .... isn't
Me fail English? That's unpossible!
I, I don't have a counter argument.
The best counter argument is that any other alternative options have failed
i think they mean a counter argument to "but the people are retarded" bit of the interview
That part is true. Most people are uneducated but it’s better than having one group in charge..
It's that nutty rajneesh fella.. what happened to his Rolls Royce collection?
"The cars are owned by the Rajneesh Modern Car Collection Trust and were used by the guru for his daily drives on the 64,000-acre Rancho Rajneesh. The cars are being sold as part of the general liquidation of assets at the commune where Rajneesh lived with some 2,500 of his followers.Dec 2, 1985"
Ain't that the F'N truth!
I’ve listened to this 10 times now. I love it.
You should try his cult then
Who is he?
There was a Netflix special about him, “Wild Wild Country “ Bhagwan I think.
That’s him. This is probably the most sane thing you’ll find him saying.
Evil Gandalf is not wrong.
I ended up watching a part of the video (for full video I needed to pay) and he does put out some good arguments imo
He’s a bio terrorist, encouraged raping people who’s under age, ran a cult and looked up to hitler……
A person is an intelligent, wonderful being. People are stupid panicky animals.
nobody is as dumb as everybody!
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Shakespeare I tell you
You see. I'm not going to sit here and say he's wrong. Cuz he's not.
Says the guy who led a cult responsible for poisoning a town
All shits and giggles aside, Democracy is a great system.... if the population is educated (not just literate) and informed.
The population in most mature democracies are educated and has avenues for being informed - we simply prefer to watch Cat videos.
Ground reality of the Largest Democracy is terrifying tbh.
We as a species are truly and utterly fucked.
Holy crap he is not wrong LOL
"I am a democrat [proponent of democracy] because I believe in the Fall of Man.
I think most people are democrats for the opposite reason. A great deal of democratic enthusiasm descends from the ideas of people like Rousseau, who believed in democracy because they thought mankind so wise and good that every one deserved a share in the government.
The danger of defending democracy on those grounds is that they’re not true. . . . I find that they’re not true without looking further than myself. I don’t deserve a share in governing a hen-roost. Much less a nation. . . .
The real reason for democracy is just the reverse. Mankind is so fallen that no man can be trusted with unchecked power over his fellows. Aristotle said that some people were only fit to be slaves. I do not contradict him. But I reject slavery because I see no men fit to be masters." - C.S.Lewis.
that’s why I’m the US we need to fix the republic, we need way more reps, maybe even another layer of state houses, get rid of the 17th amendment, go back to the original way of selecting the President, and get rid of parties, you should pick a rep that best represents your local community not choose between which of the parties gets to take your seat
Get rid of the 17th Amendment? So go back to Senators being appointed? Or do you want to get rid of the Senate? Because either is a stupid idea.
The senators were suppose to be the representation of each state’s legislature. Now we have a situation where the senators can actually be against their own state government.
I hope he's including himself with "the people" he is referring to.
Like a wise man once said, democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the other ones.
Yeah wouldn’t trust anything outta that cunts mouth
especially over the last ten years
No, no. They've always been, but on the last 10 years we got better internet to see it from closer
Imagine if the US had internet during Reagan. My god, the meme potential
I fucking love Osho.
This guy is a clown and a scam artist, but I have to agree with him here.
He’s not wrong
Return to fascism.
ma boi rajneesh
I really wish I disagreed
He do be spitting hard fax tho
Aint this the guy that tried to poison a town to win an election?
His assistants did it... Dude turned them over to the authorities.. Whether he knew about the attacks is still a mystery.. He later died but till then he believed he hismelf was poisoned by his followers..
What the fuck is going on here
He's not wrong
I need to delete my comment. I used exactly the same words
He is not wrong
All hail monarchy
There will always be a hierarchy. No other form of government can exist with such large populations. Democracy, communism, totalitarian governments are all basically the same. A small group of people are in power, but they often give the show that the people have a say. Granted, literal democracy is not what America has, America is a republic. However, a literal democracy in USA would be an even bigger nightmare than what we have now.
in some ways he is correct
My boy Snoop Dogg droppin facts like they hot
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The smart people should run the state.
Fun fact most Dictators were smart as fuck, yet they were still dictators.
Democracy is easily the best way to run a country because of you don’t like a leader then vote in a new one. That’s the cool thing about it, the population have power over the leader, and if that leader is doing a shit job, the people will notice and he won’t get elected again.
The American Voting system has flaws yes, but said flaws can be fixed pretty easily, but compare that to a dictatorship and it’s obvious which is better to live in…
Who gets to choose who the "smart" people are?
True. I know this woman was going to vote for this corrupt man for president just because he was hot. She doesn’t understand shit about politics and her sources were telenovela actors talking about politics.
100%. Dudes crazy af but he was right about this
I want to disagree with him. But I live in America.
Very wise words
This is a perfect holup lmaoooo. Loved this
I love how everyone thinks this only applies to the people they hate