By - AkramA12
Where is Lenin?
Where’s my main man Muammar Gadaffi
In the flair!
Not enough Beards
The worst type of revisionism
In a universe where both the Flash and Superman exist, poverty should not exist. Super speed should eliminate the expense of transportation to the point that a single person can run food wasted in first world countries over to developing nations, at no cost.
Instead, both heroes defend a Western inner city, and place that cities citizens lives over the lives of the rest of the world.
Yes, the comic is based, the animated film has Red Son Superman kill Stalin after Lois tells him "the truth" and breaks through Superman's Russian propaganda. And it has Lex Luthor unironically being the hero of the story.
I'm sorry, but is it possible where can I read this comic by chance? I'd love to read it
[Here's the animated comic](https://youtu.be/zZjrOEs8Ss0)
Warning: The comic is still liberal swill.
>the comic is based
No, it's not.
Comic is not at all based.
it's the core problem with all mainstream capeshit.
there is never a question as to whether the system they operate in should change, or could change. human suffering at the hands of imperialism and capitalism is either treated as a force of nature too strong for any superpowers to defeat, or as unimportant and not worth looking at.
the huge superhero movie franchises of the last decade are really just The End of History: The Movie
Though Endgame is still one of my favourite films of all time, Spiderman Far Frome Home really shows the neoliberal world view. Society has fundamentally restructured itself to support only half the population of earth, with half of the workforce, and the loss of half its leaders. But somehow within 6 months after the blip occurs, life is back to normal. Capitalism is natural, and can be gotten back to easily, because its "the best system we have".
Also, "Thanos did nothing wrong" just demonstrates how for liberals its easier to imagine the end of the universe than the questioning and removal of capitalism.
Writing/reading capeshit just completely atomizes your brain too. Nick Spencer for instance tried to run for Cincinnati city council on the argument that boiled down to if there was a single open cell in a jail the cops could find *someone* to arrest
There is a comic called Injustice about Superman having a nervous breakdown and becoming a sort of an anti-imperialist. He starts to physically prevent drones from dropping bombs >!spoiler which leads to US government kidnapping his parents to use as leverage and him becoming a dictator!<. It's pretty lib-brained but I really enjoyed it.
The games rock though are also lib poisoned
The games are lot of fun but I enjoyed the comic more despite not being much of a comic book person.
its cause guys like darkseid exist
Plus, why isn't Aquaman doing enough to fix plastic pollution ? he can control the damn kraken. He could warn other sea creatures where to hide. Plus, He could ask his Billionaire friend Bruce to help him.
Well, that issue is brought up, OceanMaster uses pollution as an excuse to wage Imperialist war on the surface dwellers. Eco-fascist supervillains are the worst thing to happen to the superhero genre. Liberals think eco-facism is morally complex and compelling, because you want to save the environment, but what if you do it the wrong way? When in reality, fascism is unambiguously evil, regardless of what justification is used for it. It is the cowards excuse for a compelling villain, because eco-fascism is not a politically relevant ideology. No one uses eco-fascism, because regular fascism works perfectly fine for America as it is.
The only eco-fascist who was a compelling villain was Thanos, and that's because he's a subversion of the lone wolf, martyred, survivors guilt anti-hero that is so popular within the genre. He knows that he is right, so he doesn't need to question himself, and the fact that his ideology and plan makes no logical, ethical or material sense.
" OceanMaster uses pollution as an excuse to wage Imperialist war on the surface dwellers. "
Why is there so much projection here ? OceanMaster should be the good guy. He just wants his oceans to stop being polluted. He could attack factories, sabotage polluting boats on the surface etc. Direct actions in the polluter's land doesn't mean it's an invasion. It's self-defense. Centrists takes are the worst.
Imagine if in avatar the last air bender, Aang and his friends decide to let the factory functioning instead of demolishing it because vIOleNcE iS nOt aN anSWer.
> OceanMaster should be the good guy. He just wants his oceans to stop being polluted
No. He uses pollution as a justification for continuing Atlantean supremacy, conquering all other Atlantean races in order to manipulate the monarchy into supporting his invasion of the surface. I thought it was obvious the amount of times they call Arthur half-breed that Atlanteans are very obvious fascists who consider human lives inferior to the peak of human evolution, who literally evolved out of the hubris of Socrates's Atlantean dialogue due to superior genetics. Ocean Master gains allegiance of the fishy kingdom by killing their rulers and taking command by force, and he scales full out war against the crabby kingdom. All this to stop pollution? Military coups of two independent nations was required to stop pollution? And a coincidence that the nations that Ocean Master invades are all part animals, physical representation of Atlanteans dehumanisation of the other races?
> He could attack factories, sabotage polluting boats on the surface etc. Direct actions in the polluter's land doesn't mean it's an invasion
Correct. It being an invasion means its an invasion. That's why he hunts for the Ocean Master title. It's all there in the opening DaFoe exposition dump. "In order to start an invasion of the surface world, you must gain the alleigance of 4 of the 7 kingdoms. Only then can you gain the title oceanmaster, and have legal authority to being an invasion." Paraphrasing, because I'm not watching the film again to win an internet argument over whether an imaginary person is fascist or not.
Oceanmaster doesn't attack factories, or sabotage polluting boats. This never happens, and is never implied to any degree in the film. How can you claim that I am projecting, when you are fabricating excuses for Ocean Master with no evidence in the text? Ocean Master's motivation of pollution disappears after he meets Arthur in the throne room. His Atlantean supremacy motivates him for the rest of the film. Pollution is an afterthought which gives the illusion of depth, because that's how a convention blockbuster works. Actual thematic depth takes too long, and has the potential to lose a portion of the audience, hence eco-fascism, which has the illusion of centrism even though its just fascism in sheep's clothing.
> Imagine if in avatar the last air bender, Aang and his friends decide to let the factory functioning instead of demolishing it because vIOleNcE iS nOt aN anSWer.
I can imagine that. Aang refuses to kill the fascist leader because "kIlLiNG iS nOt aN anSWer", and gets a magic lion turtle to de-escalate the conflict without anyone dying. Violence against buildings is ok, but not people. All Western media is going to be liberal, even if there are glimpses of anti-Imperialism within them. Thor Ragnarok and Black Panther have explicit condemnations of colonialism, but Spider Man Far From Home turns Tony having satellite drones into comedy rather than abject horror for the supposed reformed weapons maker. Last Airbender may have anti-Imperialist themes, but that does not make it immune from liberalism.
I am not accusing you of any projection. It's a response to the movie. I thought in the movie, Ocean Master wants to respond to humans because of pollutions. Like why the guy who wanna respond to human pollution has to be vilified too ? (I am getting rwby flash backs from here where the white fang a parallel to black panther was compared to minority supremacist ). They could've had those oppressed independent kingdom actively responding to humans and stuff but nope. the only guy with effective power to response have to be the villain.
Btw centrism is fascism apologist.
as for avatar, I wish the firelord died because the lion turtle route takes the "enlightened apolitical approach " . like "keep sleeping and a miracle will happen"
>The only eco-fascist who was a compelling villain was Thanos, and that's because he's a subversion of the lone wolf, martyred, survivors guilt anti-hero that is so popular within the genre.
*Really* generous with the use of 'compelling' here
Superman is a criminal for not using his immense powers to take over the world and establish a better world order.
"With great power comes great responsibility".
Instead Superman merely helps maintain the status quo.
At least Batman *kinda* targets the root cause of crime sometimes by donating money to charities, funding orphanages or lobbying politicians for the sake of poor people. (Again, not a bullseye, but the "next best thing")
But Comrade Batman is but 1 human and limited in his capacity. So he can only try deal with 1 city.
Superman has no excuses.
Batman is literally just Bezos who is a privately funded policeman at night time. He is most certainly not a comrade. Charity doesn't target the root cause of crime, it's rule #1 of neoliberal faking altruism whilst continuing to exploit the proleteriat. He beats up the mentally insane and poor, and has Gotham's crime belly in a perpetual cycle of prison rather than using his money to address the material causes of crime.
Also, the vast majority of his wealth goes into Justice League resources, not Gotham.
I feel like in a communist comic, Batman would be satire. A bourgeois who uses the profits acquired thru exploitation of the proletariat to fight the consequences of poverty.
Joe Chill is super based though. Kills the biggest parasite in the world and his wife despite literally not knowing who they are
Naw fuck batman
The Justice League is literally just a superhuman arm of the state working off a Western Ideology.
One of their headquarters is a space station floating in earth's orbit.
Being a global organization does not prevent them from being extremely biased towards the West
it makes me so happy when Honecker gets some love 🥰
Xi save the world!!!
Fun facts: As well as 'Stalin' bein 'man of Steel' in Russian, Clark is the 'man from Kansas.' Which was also the moniker of the first member of the CPUSA.
something something great man theory HAHAH RED FASH
^(yes i know that this is the incorrect usage)
Yeah, I don't subscribe to great man theory too. I appreciate communist leaders for their roles, but I know that for an examples if Lenin didn't exist, there would be another guy leading the revolution, and the same goes to Marx, Stalin, Mao, etc.
Where is che and sankara, 😭
Westerners can suck a dick in general tbh
"I have no interest in superheroes. They were a thing that was invented in the late 1930s for children, and they are perfectly good as children’s entertainment. But if you try to make them for the adult world then I think it becomes kind of grotesque."
Superman could enmd imperialism.
He could stop hurricanes that kill millions. He doesn't.
He could stop climate change. He doesn't.
he could drag an asteroid from the belt to earth, and provide material abundance. He doesn't.
Tony Stark could release fusion tech and end fossil fuels. He doesn't.
Most of these people are criminals for the massive problems they could solve, and do not.
I want someone to make another red superman where he never turns on Stalin and just brings about world wide communism instead.
Let me guess this was originally a lib meme wasn't it?
Genosse Honecker o7
Ulbricht > Honecker tho
Daddy Honecker 😍😍😍
Honk for Honecker!
Also honk for Stalin, Xi, Mao, Castro, Kim, and Kim
Kim, Kim and Kim\*
They are in this order:
1- Kim Il-sung (ruler from 1945 to 90s)
2- Kim Jong-il (90s to 2011)
3- Kim Jong-un
Of course. Sorry, I have problems with my memory.
But also maybe don't keep refererring them as "rulers". They are democratically elected to their positions
Of course, my bad too. They are more democratic than Western presidents.
Does anyone have a Mao Costume?
Based Gang Assemble
This sub is so cringe at times. There are no heroes; that's for idealists to believe in. There are revolutionary movements and there are indeed great leaders, but also valid criticisms to be made wherever socialism has been undermined or sabotaged. Less person cult please.
This is just hyperbole dude. If anticommunists can call Stalin a demon, we should be allowed to call him a hero. This is just a reply to them.
Between us, we know they're just human beings who led revolutionary movements and also made mistakes (which we criticize them for) but they also saved millions of people so it's kinda resembling super heroes (in an ironical manner).
Yeah maybe I'm taking the meme too seriously but it still comes off the wrong way imo. I think it's better to be the example of reason and objective fact to radicalize more people rather than to keep trending this sort of "culty bandwagoning" flavor of online leftism.
You're right, but using figures like Lenin or Mao to motivate the working class isn't something new. In USSR they always treated Lenin as the great father of their country, as they do now in China with Mao.
I know it's idealistic, but the working class isn't that dialectic either, and they will be more motivated by figures than books (unfortunate but it's a fact that we need to deal with).
We can always teach the working class to think dialectically, so it's not a permanent problem.
I don't get it
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Doesn't Honecker fall under the lable of Western leftist? Wait nvm b/c that means Castro would too but we all know western just means a supporter of white Imperialism.
Where's Comrade Tito?
Honecker Saved the world!
What the fuck?