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If you’re into spirituality, be careful. Men will think you’re stupid.

If you’re into spirituality, be careful. Men will think you’re stupid.

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whiskey_and_oreos

These types will look down on you for your crystals and tarot cards but swear that wearing a jersey with some other guy's name on it and painting their faces will affect the outcome of a football game 1000 miles away. Make it make sense.


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Or laugh at you carrying a good-luck charm but scream at you to get out of the room because "their" team's losing on whatever TV sport is on and it's the presence of your vagina that's the reason.


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It's funny to read, but terrifying to experience when you see the rage in the scrote's eyes and know you're alone with him.


MilkMadeMe

Not into crystals but damn sister I never thought about it that way. Love when ladies do 👏🏼 their 👏🏼 thang 👏🏼


whiskey_and_oreos

Personally I just love looking at them! I collected rocks as a kid and had one of those gem tumbler polishing kits at one point, so graduating to pretty rocks and displaying them around my home was the next logical step. They're home decor and vetting tools!


MilkMadeMe

Geodes are pretty bomb. Do you, sister.


W3remaid

Oh man I used to walk around with my pockets full of rocks as a kid too! I prefer my rocks set in inert metals these* days however 😏


pinkfleurhappiness

You on the rockhounds subreddit? :) Love to see a fellow rock lady there.


Street_Narwhal_3361

As a superstitious former jock I feel oddly seen by this post.


nothing998

"men will think you're stupid if...." If you're a woman. Period. Every man thinks he's smarter than every woman. He could be a dirt farmer in the middle of nowhere and genuinely believe his thoughts, ideas, and opinions are more valuable than a woman who discovers the cure for cancer. He probably thinks he knows more about cancer.


throwaway34288

If this ain’t the truth lol Also you killed me with dirt farmer lol


ilovesanddollars

Last LVM I dated mansplained a whole ton of psychology to me (incorrectly I might add), knowing that I had postgraduate training and degrees in psychology. I said to him, I actually studied psychology- He cut me off: I know! Maybe we should go do a course together... (and then continued to talk at me for about half an hour about some very red flaggy topics) I spent almost ten years of my life studying psychology and am already highly qualified. Why would I want to go do a beginners course with him???? Its like the whole of my knowledge on the subject just didn’t even exist in his concept of me. I have had this happen at work too, where men treated me like an idiot who didn’t know anything, mansplaining things I learned in my first year as if they were bestowing me a great gift from heaven.


dahliaukifune

I’m a poet, and an expert in Japanese art and literature, who speaks Japanese and reads classical Japanese, and who has written an article about haiku. Well, this man, knowing what I do, told me that he had written a haiku and then proceeded to explain what a haiku is to me. As we were sitting by my bookshelf full of books about Japan. They’re trash.


ShieldMaidenLagertha

What is the Japanese word for “The Audacity “?


dahliaukifune

They have several terms but it’s funny to see that they have adapted the English word, too (ōdashiti). I’ll ask some friends to see if they use it like we do.


ShieldMaidenLagertha

🤣 odashiti really sums it up


ilovesanddollars

There are just no words for the audacity.


nothing998

I had a man try to tell me how exactly vaginas felt pleasure after linking me some porn video. HELLO? I have a vagina! They do this with literally everything. They are so confident they even think they know more about owning a vagina.


ShieldMaidenLagertha

You should have replied: “oh that’s so cute! But you wouldn’t be able to get into the classes I can take because you don’t have the prerequisites.” 🤣🤣🤣


lansburysoda

Men will shit on astrology but treat everything Jordan Peterson says like it came from god


throwaway34288

Ew. I stay away from anyone who subscribes to that man.


MilkMadeMe

Never heard of him. Thanks for the eyes on it. 👀


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But notice that if men are into spirituality, they usually have a harem of women hanging on their every word because they are so "deep"... barf


mommylongestlegs

OMG YES my friend sent me a screenshot of some guy sending her texts like “10:10” and following up with “I knew when I first looked into your eyes you were different.” She was hooked thinking he’s spiritual and I immediately responded with “whoa. RED FLAG. Do not let this man use spirituality to make you think he’s “different.” He’s being way too forward too soon to not fall for it.” She only agreed with me that the romantic “in your eyes” comment was a little too soon. 🤦🏻‍♀️


LadylikeElectricland

A slight tangent, but hear me out: Spirituality is also a good field to practice your mIsAndRy, ladies. Ignore male preachers, gurus, astrologers -- whoever it is that you follow. Don't give them your time, let alone your money. Find and follow spiritual women instead. Not only they are less likely to r\*pe you (physically and metaphorically), but they are also more likely to understand your circumstances.


Wchijafm

This. In my personal experience women in spiritual circles(teachers, clairvoyant, reiki, etc) are seeking to help others. The men are all there to get attention and praise. They always want to be the center of attention and so many people lap it up.


eclo

Men hate any interest or thing that is dominated by women and coded as ‘feminine’. Spirituality fits this niche. If it’s popular amongst women men hate it, often to insane degrees. Unless they can take it over & be a superstar by doing the bare minimum with a lack of skill women would be laughed at for - see men who get a ton of praise in make up subs for doing the most basic wonky eyeliner, or men knitting some basic AF scarf etc.


Novemberinthechair

👏👏👏👏


pickmieshaexorcist

Guys who hate astrology will swear by MBTI. I enjoy me some MBTI but I love the joke that MBTI is like astrology for people who think they are too smart for astrology, and I can’t deny the truth of it.


Muffcakelord

My god my partner shits on both mbti and astrology and i try to explain how mbti is really useful for understanding the brain anyways but he's too used to making fun of people like you explain; who will love mbti but hate astrology. It's fair in a way since i really do see how most people who swear by mbti aren't all that clever but rather used the shallow stereotypes as proper guidelines for everything. I hate how we can't have nice things lmao


pickmieshaexorcist

I’d say that MBTI is at least more useful as you’re answering questions rather than just going by birthdates. However then you get into: is self-reporting reliable? What about the integrity of the test you’re taking, is it accurate and thorough? But I really couldn’t care less. I love kooky things like tarot and crystals, and yeah astrology and MBTI too. It’s just supposed to be a bit of fun but dudes just get so frothy at the mouth about it.


Muffcakelord

I mean the TEST itself is just a taste of the deal or a commercial if you will, what really helps is reading about the functions, understanding them, and relying on a pattern to understand why some ways of being and doing will lead to, or be influenced by, different factors related to cognitive patterns. One important thing i learned is why i can or cannot relate to certain people, how to better spot those different kinds of people, and better understand them. This has worked wonderful for me because it tells me that the way i think isn't how everyone thinks, something that's super important for empathic thinking which again is essential for properly working with other people (and being good role-models for children!) What i hate about the MBTI community is that they rely on or solely focus on the test. The test is KNOWN to be half good at best. The real knowledge lies within literally everything else and people keep skipping it saying "man, usually on fridays i type as INTP but on mondays i'm more of an INFP, nvm that doing the tests several times completely ruin the point etc lmao" Guys being interested in MBTI needs to be asked about their shadow function or something else related to the actual theory; if they're confused by these questions, it likely means they're just self-indulgent and don't really care about psychology (which is seen as a feminine science, so it is very much an interesting detail to figure out about a guy. If he's misogynistic he won't take it seriously but MIGHT use cherry-picked shallow theories and stereotypes for his own personal gain against women) Sorry if that was long and cluttery but the point about people actively misusing MBTI is important for filtering out LVM. Other ladies here have explained their experience with "NT" men as well; often they take the test and answer as though they were their idol (hint: the joker) and brag about being selfish and mean because of their personality type. MBTI is a powerful tool for us in that sense, just by knowing a tiny bit about it.


pickmieshaexorcist

That is SO TRUE about NT dudes. And the rest of your comment really resonated with me because I type INTP, however, the cold uncaring “intellectual pursuits above all else” online characterization never felt right, so I wondered if I was INFP. But that description never seemed right either. So I learned more about the functions and I can pretty confidently say I’m INTP. What I was reading online about them was often the SHADOW archetype of the INTP, which is why it didn’t fit, until I delved deeper. Which INTP dudes on online forums and here on Reddit seem weirdly proud of? Like they want to be the shadow version. Like you said, the Joker, ugh.


Muffcakelord

That's a wonderful and also common perspective! Being toxic is seen as a masculine and cool trait by many men which is probably why they keep saying masculinity is toxic and that by reducing men's actual toxic behavior is misandrist, etc. Good riddance


GrapeJuiceEnthusiast

Because MBTI requires someone to answer question it offers you an insight into how they view themselves. It can definitely be useful for that reason. I think astrology objectively is not accurate because it just goes off your birth date however it can be really fun for people so I say let them enjoy it.


Heather619

Lol the MBTI is a pile of hot garbage. I want to see his MMPI.


pickmieshaexorcist

What is MMPI?? I love taking personality tests and stuff, is there a link? 👀


Heather619

It's one given by clinical psychologists, so it wouldn't be found online.


GrapeJuiceEnthusiast

I actually do want to see a man's MBTI. Ladies, stay away from men who think they're INTP/INTJ. They're obsessed with seeming logical (we all know men who think they are logical are actually emotional but they're misogynists so they think everything a man does is SmArT and RaTiOnAL) and act like emotionally stunted pieces of sh*t because of it.


Heather619

Lmao I'm INTP/INTJ 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


GrapeJuiceEnthusiast

I mean same (apparently) but I'm not saying it applies to INTP/INTJ women, just the men.


midwesternwinds

This!! And a lot of pickmes do the same. It's often code for narc scrote/scrotette who thinks their opinions are fact and they can offer them to anyone unsolicited. They use mbti for an ego stroke.


bisanti

This. They think it's a point of pride to be out of touch with their emotions. No thank you ✋🏽


midwesternwinds

Why is MBTI garbage? It's quite accurate if you study the cognitive functions and ignore those awful online quizzes with stupid questions like "What would you rather do? A) Discuss the meaning of life or B) Think of what's for dinner?"


Heather619

It doesn't have much clinical relevance, it's just for fun. I suppose I'm more critical of it since I'm a psychologist.


blair2006

He’s probably an INTJ who thinks he’s a little robot genius


HeavyMetalLobster

I don’t subscribe to any crystal stuff, tarot cards, astrology etc - but I don’t put down people who do They’re not infringing on my life at all. And telling them how BS I think something might be as long as it’s not hurting anyone, is not my style I’ve had men be nasty to me for my taste in music, clothes I wear, anything and everything. Completely turned me off dragging other people down for things they enjoy even if I don’t think they’re interesting or worth it Just respect that *they* like it. Again as long as it’s not harmful


aquietsword

I'm just throwing this out there, but for the longest time I've had that feeling that men have this primal instinct that tells them that women who are voyagers of their own spirituality, who lead other women to their discoveries, who don't listen to traditional, off the shelf teachings are mighty dangerous to them. It's one of the things that feels SO tightly controlled even still, but a lot of people don't question it too much. There's obviously a lot of practical and political power that comes with being able to shape the spiritual minds of a group, but part of me thinks there's more to it than that and I haven't quite put my finger on it.


pickmieshaexorcist

Agreed, it’s where the old time fear of witches comes in.


NemesisNoire

just a coincidence that most "witches" were midwives, aka, women helping other women control their reproductive capability


Yellowsunflowerlover

I had a guy tell me I was mentally ill once because I was into crystals and meditation. I found it funny, yet months later down the line he tried talking to me again. Sir, go wear your lucky socks and jersey and watch your sports team.


Street_Narwhal_3361

Also beware crystal fishing scrotes in the community. I’ve found that where there are people looking for healing and help there are degenerates looking for easy pickings. Like no, there is no such astrological placement that makes you worth my time so just stop taking to me. Yeah, this actually happens to me- I had a scrote try to pick me up while I was looking at some minerals at a fucking Renn Fest by trying to tell me all about healing properties of certain stones and how his chart showed he was a spiritual leader. Bro, even by shit tier crackpot standards that’s a weak ass approach not to mention how are you going to try to rock some shaman angle without so much a beard?


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I'm not sure if it's a bad thing to allow a man to underestimate me if he's not responsible for my career advancement, tbh. Let him think I'm stupid so he gets careless and makes it easier for me to next him.


_electrafire

Pretty ironic considering MGTOWs pretend to go “monk mode” and meditate to escape the gynocratic society controlled by women who are too vapid to care about things like meditation and spirituality!! But then, if we do meditate and are spiritual, apparently this makes us whores too!! This proves that men’s elusive, rational, and deep nature is clearly beyond our conception. They are so profound and enlightened!


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throwaway34288

I like this answer it’s very true


mommylongestlegs

This literally just happened to me. A guy I was flirting with and send racy photos to, back when I was a pick-me and he put in absolutely no effort to get those from me, hit me up again after over a year of not speaking. I found FDS during that time. After catching up a bit, and telling him about the improvements I’ve been making in my career, my relationships, my mental and spiritual, he started hinting that he wanted to sext and send pics. I ignored all his hints and requests. Eventually I flat out stated that my sexual energy is powerful and I’m not giving it to just anyone. He acted interested, telling me to send him some stuff I’ve been studying for my own growth. I asked him an introspective question about the health of his sexual energy and I got crickets. And that shit made me smile from ear to ear because I just repelled this boy with my growth and the expectation that he also be on my level, and that let me know just how much I’ve grown as a person. He hit me up again a few days later with the “hey how’s your day” still ignoring my question. He’s still on read. 💃


prehistorycat

This and astrology, men hate it so much and constantly disrespect women for loving astrology. I don't care if you don't believe in it or think it's stupud, but there's no need to demean women for it.


Muffcakelord

Men hate it because it makes women talk


ItsFreezen

Scrotes are dead inside.


midwesternwinds

I'm spiritual in the sense that I'm a Christian so it's different, but have any other Christian ladies had problems with atheist men? They really tend to view themselves as science/philosophy experts and can be mansplaining kings. I noticed a LOT of incels tend to identify as this.


krba201076

I don't know why your post is getting downvoted. It is the truth. A large number of men don't value spirituality. They only cling to the Abrahamic faiths because it allows them to take over women.


spinsterchachkies

Ask him what his zodiac sign is!!! Lmao


highlightmyflaws

Tarot helped me cope with a serious loss and I've had multiple partners mock or simply not believe or support my spirituality. My altar has become part of my vetting process. I don't want any comments on it unless it's positive. Going "ooh witchy" is not positive and you can gtfo of my house now.


luvmyvulvaxoxo

I also think we can compare men who are into the INJP personality shit as the same thing as women who are into astrology/tarot. When I was on OLD I got so annoyed by so many dudes bringing that shit up. And yea, they were def the type to shit on women into spirituality.


Softrito

I don't believe in astrology but I have an astrology book that tells you your compatibility based on the pairs birthdays. I was shocked with my brother's and his wife cause it resonated so much with them. Now I'm gonna see Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip's compatibility cause I been watching the Crown😭😂


Gouda8995

What is the book called? Having my birthday right before Christmas when I lived on the west coast always just meant Christmas lights, but after 10+ birthdays up further north where there are seasons, it's felt really different to have my birthday right when everything just closed a month ago for the season, while all the guys I dated have spring or summer birthdays.


pickadaisy

I’ve had this book for over 15 years and have assessed every relationship and had many guests in my home so the same. It has never been wrong. It’s so scarily accurate that I don’t read it till after a break up because I don’t want to find out the problems from a book. That’s pre-FDS. I’ll probably just use this as a vetting tool now. Highly recommend the book.


Softrito

The Secret Language of Relationships-Your Complete Personology Guide to Any Relationship with Anyone by Gary Goldschneider & Joost Elffers. If you're curious about my search for Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip, the little icon in the corner reads like this, Strengths: natural, entertaining, helpful. Weakness: irritating, needy, rejecting. Best: friendship. Worst: love.