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Opalescent20

No one triggers 8s more than 8s themselves- facts


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oldoysterhouse

This one is better than average.


Iridiandioptase

Grandma is a 1, mom is an 8. I must agree.


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hearts182

You are mad at me, you ask me a question about it. I ignore you and say nothing


rlh1271

See this one is good. That would infuriate me. I can’t stand passive aggressive behavior.


BasqueBurntSoul

I believe 9s will be the best with this trend because of how passive-aggressive and fake and unaware they can be. They will reflect back what you hate the most. lol


rlh1271

I wouldn’t say they’re fake but they do hate conflict.


RouniPix

Sometime, hating conflict mean going into them and end them fast, I can't stand unsolved conflict.


rlh1271

I mean while I agree with you, the eight wing probably helps you a lot there.


RouniPix

I guess yeah


RouniPix

I guess yeah


BasqueBurntSoul

Isn't that being fake though? Not really saying what you feel and what you think. It's one thing that you are clueless about it and it's another if you just want to avoid conflict.


porritosdemarihuana

A 3 is fake, a 9 is not


Daisydaisyflower1234

9s: Are suppose to be peaceful and conflict avoidant 9: *Throws 3 under a bus* Oh wait, maybe your wing of 8 did that 😆


hearts182

I don't think we are fake. The enneagram is largely unconscious. 9s are mostly unconsciously avoiding conflict. Our motivation is to keep the peace in the relationship and it's driving us to not even be aware of what we actually want and to keep the relationship we have with you close and strong. Your view of us is not only totally wrong but also rude?


BasqueBurntSoul

I would agree but since 9s are one of the most common types out there and there would probably even be subtypes below it. So yeah, some are fake, some are nonchalant, some are truly accepting and non-judgmental, some are simply unaware, some are just genuinely self-focused to bother. You are only one 9, I know a lot of 9s who are fake af.


HistoryMysterious313

9s will fuck our shit up!!! THEY ARE TOO POWERFUL. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ARTAX AND WE'RE ATREYU


porritosdemarihuana

No thats just a fucking unhealthy victimist, but I agree that a 9 can be like that


SaturnInfinity

😎


3HoloStars

I read this and had to take a deep breath… fml, that shit pisses me off so bad! I can’t stand when someone does this. And now I’m annoyed that I was triggered. 🙄 lol


AsleepQuestion

That’s good, I have such a love/hate relationship with type 9’s because of this haha.


2dayroad

I'll just leave tbh But it would secretly piss me off


Kikie3

I love this. I’m a 9w1 and my SIL is a narcissistic 8 and literally the ONLY way I could ever get back at her or have some gratification was to brush her off or be passive aggressive 😂


Aubrey_D_Graham

This Actually. I've literally stopped talking to people until they address our problem; inadvertantly, some relationships end. Im OK with that.


Opalescent20

Plz no, don’t let me ruminate 😭


LiliaBlossom

this is the most triggering tbh, like wtf, talk ffs


HistoryMysterious313

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oldoysterhouse

If we were mad at you, it wouldn’t end there. But if you somehow continued to ignore til the point of separation, that’d bring wroth. Depending on circumstances, it could be dangerous lol


Daisydaisyflower1234

That’s a real easy way to end a friendship/relationship with an 8. I can take not responding as a sign that you’re untrustworthy and had ill intentions about whatever you did, meaning I’m probably better off without you. Not responding is one of the easiest ways to loose my trust.


hearts182

That's a lot of projection onto a person who is simply avoiding conflict because we're wimps


Daisydaisyflower1234

Okay this response actually made me laugh 😆


namesrue

Not being able to be vulnerable with others makes you weak and easier to control.


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kennyflies

Wait what’s a fake vulnerability?


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porritosdemarihuana

8's are straight up psychos


Mini_nin

Yeah, that example was out of this world lol.


namesrue

My favorite psychos, though


2dayroad

Says the person with an 8 wing


porritosdemarihuana

And a pretty strong one ! :)


External-Reserve-440

> Dumb example, i’ll openly talk about how i’m self conscious i am about my nose and that i have abandonment issues when fortunately those aren’t issues i have. Wait, doesn't that result in a heap of unasked for advice? That's *specifically* why I try to keep my mouth shut around certain ppl lol :D Like what's the point in being vulnerable/transparent if all that ppl want to do is try to live through you and fix you, as opposed to being compassionate and know when to stfu (this is the kind of things I am picking up on and being triggered by btw, curious how you compare :D)


Easy_Connection_7344

I strongly relate to this way of thinking


2dayroad

how so?


CisneBlanco

That was... unexpectedly wise


HistoryMysterious313

TRUE AF. I've been to therapy so this doesn't trigger me now, whew. BUT IT'S TRUE!!!


peppermintpupp

I’d say this one


LiliaBlossom

yup, true, but not triggering as I realised this lately


rbsosa

You’re incompetent


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AsleepQuestion

Except it doesn’t work because I know for a fact I am competent lol.


EmeliaDarling

I really wish you would just sit down, take a breath, and let things be for a bit. You don't have to handle everything that happens ever, you know?


3HoloStars

You can’t tell me what to do. Besides, no one can do it like me. 😉


2dayroad

Sounds more like 1 to me, I don't care what someone else thinks I shouldn't worry about...


EmeliaDarling

To be honest, it's more about how you perceive it. It seemed to work for a couple others here. It's essentially an exertion of what you should and shouldn't be in control over. This would likely also work for 1 and counterphobic 6 so :P


2dayroad

Ah I getcha. The way you worded it sounds like a well meaning suggestion though, that's why it doesn't sound triggering. If you'd said "Sit down and stop trying to control everything, you're getting on my nerves" that'd be a whole different story.


oldoysterhouse

Not triggering. Try again.


EmeliaDarling

No. :)


Daisydaisyflower1234

My counter 6 mom taught me otherwise.


dukescottie

Your dog sitter just called to tell you your beloved dog was just hit by a car, and you are a 16 hour flight away with shitty cell reception (call dropped and you can’t get a signal).


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dukescottie

protection instinct + helplessness = Rage


BasqueBurntSoul

i wonder if only 2s are able to trigger 8s haha. (and maybe 9s)


shostyposting

lol who *wouldn't* this trigger???


flipthecanvas

Fr you tell me my pets are hurt in any way shape or form and I’m gonna lose my shit… even worse if I can’t be there


dukescottie

No doubt but an eight might cause an earthquake


mostafalk

That would make any human mad


Mister_Way

You are your own worst enemy; nobody has ruined more things for you than you.


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2dayroad

Exactly! Like if it's my fault I can easily fix it and move on. If someone else did it, I'll just feel vengeful, which doesn't solve anything.


AsleepQuestion

That doesn’t trigger me, that’s just an accepted fact in my life lol.


almostthebest

Yeah.? That's something I'm proud of.


Daisydaisyflower1234

I think this might apply better to unhealthy 4s


NUMBERQ1

Eh, it's not like it's worth trying to trigger you, 8's lack emotional depth, after all. Yes yes, besides anger, 8's don't have any emotions. Even if they did, it's not like they'd ever have the strength or willpower to talk about those emotions with anyone. Nope, you guys are going to wither away without ever feeling any true human connection, rotting in your miserable, emotionally blunted shoes.


Tiny_Presentation804

upvote because my brain read this with a very specific voice tone


2dayroad

Congrats, you did it


External-Reserve-440

Ouch, that hurt *an 8 part got activated within my system*


Flitzy2008

What enneagram are you?


gymtech14

I just ate all of the food in your pantry without asking and I'll probably do it again because I know I can get away with doing that to you.


rlh1271

Lol what? 8’s are one of the types MOST likely to confront you. If nothing else I’d load that food with ghost peppers. Come at me.


gymtech14

Perhaps I misunderstood the assignment, but I thought that was the goal here?


rlh1271

You know what you’re right. I totally missed your point. Fuck. Yah got me.


External-Reserve-440

The most sneaky delivery to the assignment, period


2dayroad

You wouldn't be able to. Try again lol


Daisydaisyflower1234

If u ate all the food in my pantry, you’re gonna start puking soon cuz that’s a lot of food.


lilac_ocean

8s are like the easiest to trigger. Yall go around at baseline: triggered.


whirlwind-fairy

Actually the only way to trigger us is to make us think you are a threat to me or somone I care about, otherwise we internally laugh at others attempts. Its not very easy with your words unless we let you in as somone we trust. We take backstabbing seriously.


lilac_ocean

Well... I have heard more angry rants from 8s than all the other numbers put together.


whirlwind-fairy

We tend to like to trigger others in order to teach them. As if we see a weakness we want to fix we can come off strong, that and most are MBTI types that usally arent very emotionally tactful. But we regardless we usally have good intentions and will seem triggered, but usally arent very bothered. We only get genuinely bothered by poeple who we see as a threat or getting in our way.


lilac_ocean

Its funny you say that because most of the 8's I know are ENFJs—who (on the whole) are very in tune with other people's emotions. But something that 8s \*and\* ENFJs tend to do is, if they feel an injustice is occurring, will bulldoze any other principle/belief/empathy to get the injustice addressed. I actually love 8s for this (usually lol) but because there are just so many injustices occurring all the time, I feel like the 8s in my group really stay triggered.


thndrbrd87

#


Tiny_Presentation804

FUCK. banging my head against the wall rn


EgoTrapObserver

Ur a 6.


Jackandmozz

8’s, Your Confidence does not equate competence.


tomjazzy

No. That’s what you want because you enjoy conflict. But it’s okay. You don’t always have to fight everybody. Here, have a hug (how was that?)


whirlwind-fairy

I would be more annoyed by the unwanted hug then the faulse accusation.


SekhmetsRage

I think I have some 8s in my family. *Family member is mad wants to have a yelling match and I don't* Me: *Shuts down zones out til they finish and I can walk away* *I'm upset but can't find the words at the moment nor want to talk about it* Them: Refuses to let me leave until I say what is wrong Them: wants me to agree/do something. Me: Says OK and proceeds not to do said thing. How to piss off an 8 is be a 9 I guess. Since my desire to avoid conflict enrages them. The more they push the harder I retreat/zone out. This is not intentional I find conflict extremely stressful/anxiety inducing and basically do everything to get out of unpleasant feelings situation.


john_54321

Your wrong though. Sit down.


Tiny_Presentation804

i’m an entp so i guess i’m more flexible than an extj 8, for example. If you told me that, i wouldn’t sit down, i’d relentlessly ask you over and over to explain to me why it is that i’m wrong and you’re right. And who knows, you might be right. I’ll *never* sit down and shut up tho


kennyflies

Lol at “sit down”


ImBoredSoMuchRN

Fuck you then.


Jinns_13

The choices you have made were not in righteousness anger for the injustice of others; it has always been the tantrum of a toddler who didn’t get the biggest piece of cake justified in adulthood. Edit: Failed assignment. Edited as had to make it one sentence only.


Daisydaisyflower1234

Are you a 1?


Jinns_13

5 in test and consensus. 1 is typically the other early guess / assumption, so close!


CisneBlanco

You can't be triggered if you are already always triggered.


Opalescent20

Alright fr stop 😅


CisneBlanco

Hahahahah ❤


Tiny_Presentation804

i like your username.


CisneBlanco

Thank you!!


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No amount of aggression will make people respect you if they actually have a spine.


peppermintpupp

Ooft


Tiny_Presentation804

i feel this fits the extj 8s best


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True, 8 ENTPs just give me the vibes of tornadoes whirling shit around for the fuck of it.


TelephoneGlass1677

I just hurt someone you love and there's nothing you can do about it.


3HoloStars

My first thought is, “Yes I can, just watch.” and then I reflect and think of something that I truly can’t control and justify it with, “karma is a bitch. It will come back and bite them in the ass. It never fails and I love sitting back and watching it happen.”. 8s… we’ve got a solution for everything. lol


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You are compensating for your weakness. Also youre a virgin.


Tiny_Presentation804

shit ig i’ll follow the 22th law of power and surrender. i was called a virgin there’s nothing else i can do 😔💔


Daisydaisyflower1234

Yeah I’m a virgin. You gotta a problem with that?


Warfrog

Hahahah jeez man that last bit had me laugh out loud and drop my balloons


Luksior_

cmon we are almost as easy to trigger as 4s, we just don't show it bc we pretend to be insensitive and all (hope that triggered you)


peppermintpupp

You’re way easier to trigger than 4’s. At least we’re able to show it, unlike you guys holding it in until you explode and cause wreckage to everyone around you. (This is directed at 8’s in general this was meaner than I thought)


Luksior_

oh well you think so? i challange you to an emotion showing contest to settle this, everything on your terns bc i'm confident


peppermintpupp

You typed this out three times, someone’s definitely feeling confident


Luksior_

i surely am


Luksior_

damn i thought u meant on other posts, my internet made me reply 3 times lmaoo


kleekols

What? This is easy. “You can’t do that”


RouniPix

Are you like, really sure about that?


RaccoonLady24

You don’t actually care about others or about animals or the world, you just want them to care about you, but nobody ever does or will


LMNSTUFF

Although we're best friends because you're so angry and aggressive that I avoid confronting you and now I'm not going to talk to you ever agin because of my silent resentment.


xxcaramel

you cant always be right. sit down and learn to take advice from other people. it won’t bruise your ego too much


Sour_Spy

What's there to trigger? Your already are triggered, everyone knows 8s have no personality trait other than being explosive


hypatia888

I won't fight it out with you, I just walk away... Stay mad :-P


TheAbsoluteLastWord

You will lose, and I will guarantee that.


Woolliza

No one is out to get you. You don't need to protect anyone.


Tiny_Presentation804

i think an 8w9 might relate a bit more. Or maybe it’s just that i’m personally pretty self-centered.


oldoysterhouse

Don’t need to. Just want to.


Daisydaisyflower1234

I have scrolled through a lot of the comments and so far this has been the most triggering. I almost made a genuine rebuttal to it, only to remember that triggering type 8s was the point of the post.


Millennial_Mary

Let’s just talk about how you are feeling


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Millennial_Mary

Funny. I’m an 8w7. I don’t want to talk about present feelings. I have no emotional ties to my past. I tell it as if it’s a book I read. It’s weird.


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Millennial_Mary

But what ever happened made you who you are now. Stand tall and keep moving forward!


Jazzlike_Flan8718

Same here! I can talk about my traumatic childhood, but I don’t like to talk about my current issues. I just started to talk about my childhood after I could realize this doesn’t make me vulnerable anymore and I am much stronger to handle similar situations.


2dayroad

Yeah that's textbook trauma. Emotionally detaching from the traumatic experiences to move on.


matrixsphere

You know that you're actualy not as strong as you think. You're weak, too weak to even admit your weakness.


2dayroad

Grrr


ibanezmonster

No one is ever going to build a time machine for you to go back in time and take down even a single one of the evil dictators who killed millions of innocent people. And you can't take down a single current one, either.


almostthebest

This doesn't hurt at all. I don't care about all of the cruelty in the world. I only care about cruelty that's around me and directed towards my people.


Opalescent20

This kind of triggers me but not in the way of me not being able to take down evil dictators but in the way of ‘I can’t do much to stop pain and suffering on a grand scale’


ibanezmonster

This must be the difference between 8w7 and 8w9 thinking. Interesting.


Not_OPs_Doctor

The only difference between you and I is that people like me while also respecting me.


BloodMagic14

You're a Beta who thinks he's an Alpha ....


Tiny_Presentation804

i can’t with the alpha beta sigma thing- people aren’t wolves 💀💀 men who describe themselves as alphas/sigmas are furries and mentally ill imho


HistoryMysterious313

yeah but what if I describe myself as diosa licántropa (like shakira) *awooooooooooo* eta: I am a woman tho


namesrue

Mentally ill men are an epidemic


Tiny_Presentation804

someone please tell them therapists don’t bite


namesrue

Even worse, they want us to talk about our feelings...


Tiny_Presentation804

not you speaking for all 5s…


Hewhoslays

Based take


AsleepQuestion

I’m whatever fuck I feel like that day honestly.


chickthief

There's always a bigger fish


MidgetMan946

You're a weak sensitive coward


DiosAnonimo

Nope.


eupi-itajin

You are not allowed to post trash here.


Daisydaisyflower1234

What is considered trash posts on the internet is relatively subjective. You say don’t post trash, but to the OP this may not be trash.


eupi-itajin

It's my attempt to trigger OP


Daisydaisyflower1234

Well good job


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3HoloStars

This sounds like a personal experience. I personally will never seek someone out to discard them without care. I only remove people from my life when they have done me or my immediate family harm. This includes blood too.


peppermintpupp

I’ll keep this in mind !


Sea-Nose-3415

You always lean on "objectivity" to gain authority but you, even more than others, have very subjective personal interest underneath. You're not even aware since you don't introspect and get very defensive instead of taking time and effort to do so.


Flying_Submarine_

I don't think you are working hard enough, commit a lil more


FullAir4341

Shut up


ImmoralTea

If you don’t respond to this comment, I’ll just cc your boss on the next one


Daisydaisyflower1234

Too late. I already cc him in the original statement.


ThonAureate

I really don’t care what you have to say. I’m not going to engage with your attempt to dialogue.


heideggerian

You’re a bully. And if you think you’re not, you’re the worst kind of bully.


moinatx

Well, I think you are just being unfair and hyper-sensitive.


TB0000

Passive aggressively bait you to the point that you expose your anger in public. Shame and anger + nowhere to hide


TB0000

A 7w8 that decides to mess with you just because its fun, and they can


enneagram8

You aren't a real 8. A real 8 wouldn't ask to be triggered. A real 8 would hunt down and murder everyone who replied to this thread.


skoot66

Who put you in charge?


ALPHABOGDOG

When you feel like your friends are just putting up with you, they are.


Nightingale454

Telling you you're not making any sense