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violet__soup

its the whole "TV head" character trope that's been all the rage these days, if im right. object headed characters in general are seen all over the net, but for some reason ppl really love TVs


Pizza64210

I think the big reason for that is expressivity. A television or other screen is already designed to display images: use that as a head and you have someone who can still portray the full range of facial emotion while also being a bit more interesting.


Professor_Abbi

It just feels cool, a sentient TV could broadcast anything, he could rickroll anyone he walked past


Randomboiiyi

Not without risking his life tho.


Pasta-hobo

Yeah, but we already had something like that with both queen and mettaton


dolphin_ultra

and omega flowey


Cute-Fly1601

I was gonna say, he’s probably not gonna go with a design like this **solely** for that reason. Anyone who’s played Undertale would make a pretty huge connection there, and I think that’s not worth the easy design choice


Lendoga

Prince Robot IV is the best tv head in my opinion


King_Midas_Xynopyt

'You can't see me behind the screen, I'm half man and half machine' - Terraria item, I have no idea if and where the original quote is or if it even exists


MegaHunts

Just look up the item in the wiki and will tell what references the item is making (Its from a Lemon demon song btw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdxtcvnnlXI


King_Midas_Xynopyt

Ah, yes, but you see, I'm lazy when it comes to interweb things... Like most people on games asking if what they're doing is right.


ihtaemispellings

It's from a song, "Cabinet Man" by Niel Cicierega


King_Midas_Xynopyt

thanks


GoomyTheGummy

terraria vanity contest moment


Isaac_Kurossaki

[TIKI-TAKA]


Spamtone

King TV Dinnah moment from little king's story.


Dreams_Soul535

Especially old ones


-K2CO3-

I feel called out here-


MikuVoiceFeminzation

pre-face-reveal scorpy fanart


TheRiceKrispyTreats

Toby's genius is unmatched


TheDiseasedRat

Indeed, the fans are inferior (True).


Swaghitter

Indeed The Fans Are Inferior To: Me (True)


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noname18923

You Spelled Chicken Nuggets Wrong


TheRiceKrispyTreats

What the fuck?


MarleyTheDogg

What the hell did he say?


TheRiceKrispyTreats

I fr forgot but something extremely bad


Swaghitter

“Shut up you narcissistic bitch (aka birdlie)”


FetusDeletus_E

Burghley


EtheriumShaper

(don't punctuate)


sinedelta

If you actually [look at the card King's based on](https://kanotynes.tumblr.com/post/19996960000/just-finished-the-face-cards), it's a lot less subtle (it's also not Toby's design). The other two though, yeah.


crazymado

Omg it copied deltarune!1!1!1!!1!1!1!1


HyperfocusedInterest

This is really fun to see and something I didn't know about! Thanks for the link. :)


AnthonvYT

So THAT'S why there's no Queen of Spades in Deltarune


Silverkip-

There is no Easter Bunny, there's no Tooth Fairy, and there's no Queen of Spades


Nabnormal

I don't think its confirmed but I think Queen was designed by Gigi D.G. She works on Deltarune and Queen looks like a character she'd design [(look at Rosemaster and Computer Symbol)](http://cucumber.gigidigi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/835.jpg)


Astral_Fogduke

god the actual Rosemaster is so pretty


ElementChaos12

Damn, it's crazy how many people here don't read the credits.


MattyBro1

It's not like every playing card looks like that. It's a cool design for Jacks, Queens and Kings that Toby was inspired by and based his work off of.


sinedelta

- It's not meant to be **every** playing card, just like Queen isn't meant to be **every** laptop - I literally just said in my comment that it wasn't Toby's design. Kanotynes, the artist who made that card deck, designed the character.


TheGarnetGamer

The fact that these two comments have equal likes is why I have very little faith in the Deltarune community to critically think


Call_Me_Jobb

Omg someone is plagiarizing deltarune !!!1!1!1!1!1!


JaydenVestal

I knew of these cards existence and the story behind them but have never seen them, the original Clover is adorable, just a small 3 headed cat


Doodles2424

Is that not just fanart though?


sinedelta

No, it's a school art project from the designer who later made most of the chapter 1 characters. Toby saw her project, got inspired, and later hired her to design characters like King, Lancer, and Jevil. You can see the same username on that post (Kanotynes) in the credits. It's not Toby's design.


Doodles2424

Ok thanks


Catorsomethingiguess

Also looks like Rudinn


DL757

Posted March 27th, 2012


Doodles2424

Oohhhhh


Deltarune1Fan

Actually true.


CreativeStrangeGamer

Honeatly, it's true but I love it. People making fan designs are usually people who haven't drawn a lot getting into character design. It's nice to look back on people's old fan designs and characters even if the design isn't considered good by the main artist anymore.


PresidentOfKoopistan

Also Toby designs: - A cursor with arms and legs - A boombox with arms and legs - A CD player with arms and legs - A puzzle piece with arms and legs - A checker piece with legs - A goddamn airplane with a hat ~~Also King was designed by kanotynes~~


MagiStarIL

A hammer with arms and legs A poker chip with legs А syringe with arms and legs


M_e_E_m_Z

Well they said checker piece with legs, but yeah, those other 2 as well. Also a plushie except it's alive


sinedelta

- Toby didn't design Hacker - Toby didn't design Sweet Cap'n Cakes either


TinyBreadBigMouth

* [Queen](https://i.imgur.com/UwOlmXI.png)


anaveragebuffoon

>A checker piece with legs Legs is a bit of an understatement here.


rectalwallprolapse

- a dog - another dog - a dog but this time with a sword


the_hole_pigeon

-dog with a long neck -dog (this one is scraped) -2 dogs (one got eyelashes the other a moustache to show heterosexual represention ) -small dog (jk its a big dog) -dog


LeBalistacism

don't forget: Literally just a computer mouse


Vercci

Plot twist being they're all from a marketing brochure


FaCe_CrazyKid05

All of which are minor characters, the tv person would not be teased at the end of chapter 2 if they were minor


ZeroWolf51

I feel like that’s exactly the type of thing he’d do though, kind of like with the Chapter 1 ending


gravity_falls618

A boombox with arms and legs and A CD player with arms and legs weren't desinged by Toby tho. Edit: Wait somebody already commented that.


Stefananananan

And yet none of these are main characters. Wonder if that means anything. /s


the_hole_pigeon

sweet cap'n and k_k were'nt made by topy


POKECHU020

1. You're giving too much credit, the TV had a smile already as well 2. In all fairness Toby also designs a lot of "[Blank] with arms and legs". Hell, Tsunderplane is just a plane with a hat. Isn't Vulkin or whatever also just a mini, quadrupedal volcano?


sonic_popsicle

Technically, Tsunderplane is supposed to be a joke on the typical tsundere.


POKECHU020

Oh I'm highly aware, it's not subtle.


TheDiseasedRat

Nice pfp, we love demons 😍


POKECHU020

Who is "we" am I about to be attacked Also it's Bill Cipher, for anyone curious


BigBlubberyBirb

those are kinda just joke characters though, Tsunderplane is straight up just a dumb pun.


Spndash64

We’re still waiting for the Yandereplane


psychoticgirlboss

point 2 is absolutely true, but i feel like the characters shown above and characters like that fall into different categories


TNTFox9

Yeah but it takes a lot of creativity to turn a plane into a character. And he had to come up with the [blank] with arms and legs himself rather than taking something already in the game. Plus he did more than just make it skinny and put it in a suit.


PolyPixl09

I would argue that making the plane a tsundere is the more creative part of that character, rather than the character being a plane.


TNTFox9

I think it's both. It's already creative to make a character a plane with a hat. Giving it a personality like that is even harder.


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TheGarnetGamer

Because.... They are making comments that are ridiculous? Like, the core concept of the character is the portmanteau of tsundere and airplane. But they're like: how creative! A plane with a hat! Acting like the creative thing about the character was to simply... Choose "airplane" as a Monster race, which is just..... No. No.


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FireClawCatWarrior

Replying to check whether it's conscious people downvoting or a curse on this reply section


TNTFox9

I'ma she


POKECHU020

Oh yeah I'm not saying it's lazy, I'm just saying it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It's not fair to dislike a fanon character for a design that's also present in many other characters in several other games by the same guy.


TheDeltaDuckDude

I like the design, I just don't like how it seems to be the only fanon design. Which I understand that there is only so much you can do with what you're given at this time, bit I've only seen 2 designs out of 50 that actually stood out to me.


TinyBreadBigMouth

[Queen's actual design:](https://i.imgur.com/UwOlmXI.png) She's not based on a laptop, she's a stylized iMac with legs and arms. I'd agree it's more creative than fan-TV-guy, but the original object is clearly visible.


inkzeldared

[https://preview.redd.it/kq9dtdspmrs71.jpg?width=522&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=926789d03231b287c80d34c0667fcb80383b5374](https://preview.redd.it/kq9dtdspmrs71.jpg?width=522&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=926789d03231b287c80d34c0667fcb80383b5374) I dont know looks like a regular laptop to me


Kirby737

King isn't literally an Spade either. It's called being creative.


Rayka64

well yeah, cuz King is well, a king of spades.


Kirby737

Yeah I wanted to say Spade, non Ace.


ElementChaos12

King isn't Toby's design Edit: Oh wait, you probably know this already


Kirby737

Yeah, but the idea still applies.


Sentient_twig

I remember someone saying she was a solitaire program (a card game) and that is why she looks like the spade family and tbh that fits much better than a mere labtop


TinyBreadBigMouth

She says in her first scene that she's a computer, and gives her serial number. Solitaire games don't generally have those.


Sentient_twig

Ah, still would have been cool though


TheGarnetGamer

Tell me you never click the "about" tab in the menus without telling me.


4tomguy

Tbf the tv does smile


deaaronfox_stan

Does the laptop have high heels?


copper439

No, but the tv smiles, it's easy to understand why people think Mike is an object head TV


CardboardLightbulb43

Yes


CompetitionSad419

For all we know, Mike could be the static and not the TV.


EzriDax1

Omg mike cmbr


PixerPinecone

Or even none of the above, we literally just don’t know.


Dpad-prism

The tv already had a smile so the fandom is even less original


the_hole_pigeon

no? they made it based on that to tie it back to the orignal game (that why the designs ideas are limited)


TheDuckyDino

Um, actually, King isn’t a Toby design 🤓


sticky2955

Nah that’s not a hot take


plaguebringerBOI

Mild-warm take


the_hole_pigeon

lukewarm take


TheCorruptedBit

Little did I know that Queen was the exact model of computer that I have (framework)


WyGaminggm

Bruh this ain't Toby's work. It's Temmie's


Kirbinator_Alex

Something about turning inanimate objects into sentient beings unlocks that childish fantasy side of me I love. Especially since the more powerful entities are things like a computer which would naturally be really smart. And the idea that they come to life in a room that's left in the dark (and other circumstances we don't fully understand yet) is just the icing on the cake. Well done Toby, well done.


Tendo63

How would else you design a literal fucking TV character lmao


TNTFox9

You could do something that would look like a stylized version of some kind of tv show host. I mean I just kinda needs to represent something in the inspiration. Not be it. Like it's not ling spade king is just a playing card. He's the king in it. Actually I should probably draw this. Could also give ethe torso a screen


Tendo63

But still, it's not like Toby hasn't made more literal depictions of certain objects. Pawns, checkers, Floppy Disks, Plugs, etc Plus TV head characters are popular when it comes to OCs, so it's not a new concept


TNTFox9

Never did I say tv heads are a new concept. And those kinds of characters are side characters. None of the main characters are straight up objects with legs. People think mike is gonna be the next villian character thing for chapter 3. Which wouldn't be a little spining thing that you talk to once.


Tendo63

Just because it hasn't been done yet for a main character doesn't mean it's off the table. I don't think Mike or Tenna will be similar to all the fan speculation, but I feel like you're being dismissive for the sake of being dismissive


TNTFox9

I'm not trying to say it's off the table I'm trying to say that from what we have so far I'm not sure it would happen. It's a possibility, just not a high one. I just posted a design possiblity for mike and he's a microphone. I'm trying to see how the object related design would work while keeping the funny aspect of deltarune in it, Rather than making a literal tumblur sexyman. So basically I'm trying to come up with an idea for what a main character that's a literal object would look like. I probably explained that horribly.


Trips-Over-Tail

Teletubby.


yummymario64

Probably similarly how he made a Laptop into a character.


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Birdrun

And I just realised why King has two mouths.


the_hole_pigeon

lancer had 2 mouths too, but toby removed it when he asked to use the designs in his game


TheGhostOfUndyne

Are we sure Tenna even looks exactly like that


DeanOnFire

We don't, and yet this is essentially what everyone keeps speculating is the next major dark world antagonist. Even if you put him in a suit, it's still TV + smile + body.


TheGhostOfUndyne

Are we sure Tenna is a him


Afrogan_Mackson

He's referred to with the pronoun "his" in >!https://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/!<


TheGhostOfUndyne

I was told that we don’t know 100% if that’s what the masculine pronoun is referring to


Alzhan_Void

Jesus christ just accept the pronoun for now it's the best we've got.


TheGhostOfUndyne

But we don’t know for sure that it’s referring to Tenna


TheGarnetGamer

I'd even go to say that, based on all conventions of the English language... We know for certain that Mike isn't using "he" to refer to Tenna. Unfortunately, that also means we have no clues to Tenna's pronouns.


TheGhostOfUndyne

Then why is it called damn you Tenna


PartyInitiative5272

You are quite the contrarian, aren’t you?


TheGarnetGamer

Except... That dialogue? It's directed at Tenna. Using the pronoun "you". So why would he switch to talking about a "he", mid Convo? He never does anything like that in Ch2. The "he" is referring to a different person than the "you", which we know is Tenna.


CharaPresscott

Tenna? His name has been confirmed? Also I already have my voice for him then if it is.


_murpyh

https://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/ this pretty much confirms it


TheGhostOfUndyne

Everyone has been talking about Tenna Why do you think name wasn’t confirm


CharaPresscott

...I haven't been catching up with the teasers for Chapter 3. OOTL at the current moment.


EffectiveFennec

remember the one that was literally just a tv with a giant smile on it with huge antennae that had spamton’s signature colors


SmithyLK

ok but the fan battle that resulted from that goes hard af. Banger music and a very creative yet intuitive addition to the blue soul mechanic


RatchetGamer

Not all fan designs are that unoriginal. Some are actually pretty cool, like [this one](https://twitter.com/MinerMateCoffee/status/1452744131441315845?s=20&t=QK_1g0RRaoclVCqjzh6GDA)


SnooBunnies9328

King is a hampter not a card


EndureThePANG

in defense of the artists in the crowd who draw TV head mike, if they did what toby did they'd immediately be compared to countryhumans.


Mountain-Dragonfly78

I mean Toby didn’t even designed the King lol, and Queen is pretty much just a female and more simple version of it (not saying it’s bad)


TrashXX301

There are some fan designs that deviate from it and I kinda like the more creative designs of Mike like him being depicted with a star shape as a pun on being a TV star ([https://twitter.com/Devilredd\_/status/1570394480116891648](https://twitter.com/Devilredd_/status/1570394480116891648)) this one btw, tho it is based off the newer information that most TV head Mikes didn't have access to when they were designed


Sentient_twig

I do remember seeing [this](https://youtu.be/XE5zgDDD4xU) as a design for like (along with some banging tunes) and IMO it looks a million times better and much more akin to what Toby himself would make


EducationalOil7060

Yeah. I hate seeing all of the designs online just portraying “Mike” or whoever the villain of the chapter is as just being Spamton with a TV for a head, but it probably won’t be like that. Tony’s design for “Mike” would probably closer resemble like, a fusion between Queen and Mettaton EX or something.


CowCluckLated

Queen is accually a calculator but at last moment Toby changed to room and removed the calculator


yummymario64

Also mike is perhaps *way too similar* to Mettaton...


DaPretzelBoi

We don't even know anything about him and you're saying he's too similar to Mettaton. Though frankly if he is, it'd make sense. The King had a lot of thematic and narrative parallels to Asgore in Undertale, so the TV being similar to Mettaton would make sense and create an interesting trend after we didn't get anything similar in Chapter 2 with Queen.


yummymario64

Well, I'm talking more about the community's take on his would-be personality. Sorry, should have been a little more clear.


DaPretzelBoi

Ah, yeah I can see that. I'm eager to see what direction Toby takes this new character in.


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DaPretzelBoi

I guess I could see it, but the parallels between the King and Asgore are much clearer, especially with the scene of walking through his throne room so evoking the feeling of the similar moment at the end of Undertale. The King and Asgore both have more serious demeanors, though the King is much more sinister, while Queen and Toriel are hard to compare in their presentation and personalities beyond their overprotective nature.


the_hole_pigeon

we had refrences to mettaton and mad dummy in spamton's music and NEO's design too. i mean mettaton literally made NEO. so i think this is not strickly for main villians


DaPretzelBoi

While Spamton NEO is obviously referencing Mettaton NEO and has direct ties to Deltarune's Mettaton, I don't think Spamton's character or storyline parallels Mettaton's at all.


the_hole_pigeon

ok yeah, thats true too the only semiliarities being they were/are famous personalties, and both of them changed to a NEO body as a last-ditch effort at freedom and (both failing) i was admitly looking for overt refrences not thematical parallels


SolarPunch33

It's as if a card/spam email with a face and limbs aren't good looking/popular designs... (unless this is an object show lol) Plus, Queen is not JUST the computer, she's the queen of spades, hence why she resembles King. It's still possible that the ruler of the cyber world may've had a computer screen for a face before Queen took over, or if the Queen just wasn't a spade card. I never really understood this argument. Just because Toby Fox hasn't done something before, doesn't mean he'll never do it. He is a lot more unpredictable then you think; in the sense that he'll do whatever he wants in this game because it's his game. If he wants there to be a TV head guy, then there will be. But if he doesn't, then there won't. And we don't know what he wants Edit: Also, the head is just one part of the character design. There's still a LOT you can do with body shape, colour scheme, and outfits. Toriel and Asgore are literally just anthro goats. Burgerpants is just an anthro cat. I don't see how a TV head character is any different. It's just choosing a species and being able to make a unique character from it


TNTFox9

I love the fact we have no proof that the tv is even mike. Just theory's we had taken as a fact. Same with gaster too actually. For all we know mysterman could actually be a rapper named lilpenis. Imagine if that actually the case lol.


RafKen593

To be fair Spamton does mention TVs in his dialogue, and the Sweepstakes now made it clear Mike is not TV Guy so that intepretation will probably die out.


Scribbsia

People (including me) like TV Heads. To be fair, whenever there are other fanmade Darkners, their designs get more creative. They just aren't as repetitive as all the TV head Mikes running around, so you notice them less.


Evillisa

No idea why you feel the need to dunk on random fan designs, I mean they're fan designs. If they're bad who cares.


medianvoidmen

tbf there is a character which is just a chess piece with legs


Mommasmonologue

Where's the lie? This is why he makes the video games and we play 'em.


epicmatt43

I mean, spamton is just sort of a stereotypical scam artist, sunglasses, slicked back hair, black suit, etc


XxOneWithSlimesxX

Queen isn't a computer herself, she's a Queen of Spades card from a game of Solitaire on the computer


EffectiveFennec

she literally says she’s a computer herself, where did you get this from


XxOneWithSlimesxX

Since she rules over the Cyber World, which is a computer world, she represents it


EffectiveFennec

i don’t know how to explain this to you she literally says she is a computer, she has a serial number, she drinks battery acid direct proof from the game - https://hushbugger.github.io/drdia/#ch2%20scene9


CappuccinoBooster

She has "serial number" in her full name, she's definitely a computer.


Nebula__boy

Lol


Nebula__boy

Lol


1spook

Pyrocynical


JellyTheSlimeYT

True, lol.


Teggo_kung

I remember that toby's design for the king was inspier by someone's art, i think


BorfBorfAMDoge

Yes, except it's mostly Temmie tho.


Dr-Logan

I honestly doubt that Toby's gonna make Tenna have a TV for a head if the appearances of the last few antagonists are anything to go by. ...Now a TV Screen for a Face, now *that's* a different story.


Dreams_Soul535

That’s very true


Whatful

So true haha


Wobbmin

Tbf Queen is based on one of those Solitaire playing handheld toys. Her head is very similar to one. And King was designed by Kanotynes, along with all the other playing card characters.


LimonZen

spamton for me is the weirdest one. how tf did he come up with that


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My_phone_is_retarded

Ayyo shot fired!


overlord1305

Is no one going to talk about Spamtom? Are you saying his design is based off an email or something?


AnAverageHumanPerson

he’s based on spam email


overlord1305

how does his design relate in any way to spam email?


TNTFox9

It doesn't. His entire character does tho.


overlord1305

This is a post about character designs though


TNTFox9

Then the post got that part wrong. Almost every bit of his character has to do with spam emails.


AnAverageHumanPerson

dunno but he is based on spam email, cause of the name and concept and stuff. The puppet thing is probably a reference to how most of that stuff is sent by bots which are essentially digital puppets


overlord1305

I understand that he's based off spam email, but his sprite doesn't relate to this is any way. He doesn't fit in OP's example.


Jirb30

The point of the post is that it isn't and that fans who make character designs based too closely on the object they're based on are uncreative.(I don't necessarily agree)


Professor_Abbi

Well what else could we do with a TV