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Can you physically tell a difference between different ethnicities in the Balkans?

Can you physically tell a difference between different ethnicities in the Balkans?

Zarzavatbebrat

I think we look pretty similar, but there are certain stereotypical faces that seem to be more common in one country or another. But even that could be an illusion. I think it's easier to tell by the way people dress.


darmedpasta

Do you have any examples? I’m just curious :)


KaiserXosta

Well in Croatia there is a joke abou bosnians having square heads not like spongebob but squery


igcsestudent2

I'm Bosnian and I've never heard of that joke


kerelberel

That's because you don't live in Croatia.


Sorrymisunderstandin

Eh what’s the difference


legolodis900

Well in greeece at least you can tell the diferecne by behavior not to be rasist and sorry if i offend


OrdinarySerbianGirl

Behaviour? Pls do explain.


Filled-Auno

In south Balkans we get really tanned in the summer. Like,seriously,when June hits I am like a completely different person.


ChaosUndSchmerz

Me too! I turn into a lobster,the only thing I hate about summer


Filled-Auno

Can't relate.In the winter I have people talking to me in German/English cause they think I am a tourist.In the summer I look more like a Gypsy.


ManosKant

>In the summer I look more like a Gypsy. 🤣 I still try to figure out how politically correct this sub is supposed to be


Filled-Auno

Και πώς να τους πω? xD


AlbFighter

Are you me? I have some Germanic features but I go full gypsy in less than a week.


Filled-Auno

Is this a thing with Albanians?Like,seriously,wtf.I couldn't even recognise an Albanian friend from middle school some years ago-even his hair changed color.


AlbFighter

No idea lmao, but I myself went from cute baby to ugly ass teen to getting hit on by 30 year old women and I'm 22. My hair and beard have gone darker, but get kinda blondy when I get super tanned.


selennn

Isn’t turning into a lobster mean you can *not* get tanned?


ChaosUndSchmerz

I can get tan alright,when I get a tan it's more yellowish than brown but mostly I try to avoid sun as my skin is too senstive,I get painful blisters easily


selennn

Both my parents can’t get tan and they turn red, much like a lobster. Their skin peels and they burn again and again. My mom tries really hard to no avail, it’s fun to watch. Me on the other hand? I burn first but quickly turn tan after. I try to avoid that now that I know how harmful it can be. But I used to have tan lines up until spring when I wasn’t religiously applying sunscreen.


ChaosUndSchmerz

Yeah sunburn is no joke,it causes skin to go wrinkly later in life and might even cause skin cancer. And then there is the aspect of appearance,30 minutes walk in a sunny day and my arms,nape etc get red spots all over and I become like a Polish flag and I'm not happy about it. Welp :(


leftcornerofmychair

Be careful blisters can give you skin cancer. Wear sunscreen or avoid getting burned.


ChaosUndSchmerz

Yep,thanks for the advice


Zarzavatbebrat

Same for my family.


AntiKouk

The Albanians I've met might be distinguished by accent, the way they dress, they can have kinda different haircuts, and often they will have a pretty lean to muscular body regardless of age, a lot of the older ones from the 90s have worked in construction or agriculture and you can tell sometimes.


Niocs

and how they pronounce the "r" :D "Kalisperrra kyrrrie!" "Oh you are from Ameriki?"


PeterDuttonsButtWipe

From photos, headshape tends to get squarer at top and a less extreme Caesar haircut as a result. Now, I don’t mix with Albanians on a daily basis so it’s just based on my understanding of looking a pics on the net. The fighter that someone put on the Balkan lookalike thread is a good example [Here he is](https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/c274.0.693.693a/s320x320/72374188_2765015166890772_3432222660521433248_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=VoxKb9sC_CoAX8W0hKz&_nc_tp=16&oh=9b1fdf2d1c6342042cd10a077b2f10ec&oe=5F9BA1E8)


_kajGOD_

There is a certain Dinaric look that kinda stands out but its rarely definitive.


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PeterDuttonsButtWipe

Yeah, I think I got that one (eyes are most noticeable-dark and round against the pale skin as well as long skinny legs maybe with big feet and tall)


Dornanian

Not really. Aside from Greeks and Turks having a darker complexion on average, I cannot tell the difference. We’re all very diverse.


HammerT1m3

And Bulgarians being called ceafa lata (wide nape), which I find pretty accurate


Zarzavatbebrat

What are you talking [about](https://i.imgur.com/l00vRtr.jpg)?


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I mean yeah haha


[deleted]

I think particularly Serbs and Albanians seem to come in many „shades“! Both vary from a very light, if you want to say so „Slavic“ tone to a more tan look like you’re saying about Turks and Greeks


Dornanian

Albanians are one the least heterogenous groups in the Balkans, so idk. We are way more diverse I’d say.


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We Albanians are pretty easily recognizable in most cases.


Stari_vujadin

I noticed that too. For example, I know many blond blue eyed people who look almost nordic, but also some people with almost middle eastern look


stefanos916

The same is true for Greeks. For example: https://solontsounis.webnode.gr/_files/200000652-8c4fc8c4ff/Σόλων%20Τσούνης.jpg https://image.fthis.gr/userfiles/articles/476027%20(1).jpg?w=875&mode=crop&scale=both&quality=85&anchor=topcenter


[deleted]

Ohhh True!! I even know two sisters it applies to


stefanos916

It also applies to my family.


stefanos916

It depends on the Greek. In Greece there are many phenotypes so there are people with darker skin and people with lighter skin.


CaptainMoso

Id say we can usually tell the difference between a macedonian and an albanian. How? Albanians usually dress in more vibrant colors and they either have the best haircut on the planet or the shittiest, there is no in-between also id say albanians have a little darker skin color but not everyone.


boradu

I can totally tell who is Macedonian based on their clothes. Albanians in Albania are heavily influenced by Italy in the fashion sense, Albanians in Kosovo by Europe in general, while Macedonians have their own style which is still a mystery to me lol.


05melo

So that's the story behind Albanians' fashion here. I remember seeing a starter pack about Italian teen averafe clothing and I knew it had a connection with your fashion here And most Macedonians are dressing like gaseri that's how you'll notice us XD


NNIMIA

Ah yes, Italy. Influencing Albania since 1938


Lolita666-

Hahaha 😂🤭 Albanian girls are hotter than us. Let's be real. 🤭


CaptainMoso

Everybody is beautifull in their own way. I have not met albanian girls so i cant say


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Lolita666-

Ладно е.


tanateo

Вакви муабети, ко што го прочитав сега, на овој форум, не.


tanateo

Нема потреба од влегување во дебати. Доволно е да го пријавиш и продолжи понатаму, има модератори на форумов.


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moshiyadafne

How?


milinlazar

We are very tall. I (Serbian from Belgrade, but of distant or direct Herzegovian descent on all sides) am average height for a Herzegovian, at 185cm. Also we are very often blonde and pale.


moshiyadafne

>average height for a Herzegovian, at 185cm Wow! Is 185 also the average height for Dinaric Alps as a whole?


Diermeech

In the city of Makarska, Croatia average male height is 187.6 cm.


05melo

*sniffs* Looks like Herzegovians are back on the menu boys!


illusi0n__

In the balkans, I can recognize or "guess" if someone looks albanian and/or serbian, but not any other balkan ethnicities. I do recognize a balkaner outside the balkans though.


DDHaz

Not really. Maybe southern greeks and Turks that have a darker complexion. But I can definitely a Western European (British,French,German) or an American look. An albanian girl once told me she thinks that Bulgarians have the most variety of looks. Probably because I was sitting next to a friend of mine, who is blond and blue eyed and has a very ukranian type of look, while I'm dark eyed and haired


applingu

Not possible, the same goes for, say, The Ivory Coast and Ghana or Thailand and Laos. I can even go further and say that those who believe they can spot visible differences are plain mistaken. Here is why, feel free to ask for related studies published in academic journals: 1. Countries are made up by humans (as in non-natural) for social/political/religious purposes. 2. Ethnicities are made up by humans for social/political/religious purposes. 3. All the visible traits that one could attribute to a particular country also exist in the neighbouring country and beyond, until the climate strictly changes. 4. Physical traits are direct outcomes of the climate and related factors. If your family lives in a hot climate for 2-3 millennia (9-10 tops), the great grand children will all go totally black.


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

[Of course, here's a typical Albanian.](https://rs.n1info.com/Picture/291413/jpeg/sergej.jpg)


[deleted]

He is one of us. Sergej Trifunaj


Shqiptaria580

Dude I thought it was Edi Rama before losing his virginity.


1301arbi

Who's this guy? He definitely has a Serbian face.


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

It's the PM of Albania in his younger days. A lot of Serbs in Northern Albania were forcefully assimilated so that would explain his Serbian face.


1301arbi

What crack does to a mf 🤨


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

Ehh, this is what happens when all the good stuff gets exported and you're stuck with shit merchandise.


[deleted]

Is something burning?


sirdoodthe2nd

I dont remember any assimilation happening in the 1900s Also lets be real serbs wouldnt kill them in 1912 if they were your people


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

> I dont remember any assimilation happening in the 1900s Ask Enver. > Also lets be real you wouldnt kill them in 1912 if they were your people Do you even Balkan?


sirdoodthe2nd

Enver banned greek schools after the greek army tried to enter albania in 1949 and grab lands under the pretext that they hid the greek communists,greek army got beaten up badly,i cant find anything about the assimilation of any slavic group in northern albania,a small portion of montenegrins lived in shkodra if im correct. >Do you even Balkan? Cmon nobody would kill their own ppl would they?


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

> Cmon nobody would kill their own ppl would they? You really don't know Balkan history do you, the more similar we are the more likely we are to kill each other.


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>Ask Enver. You mean the name suffix law? It affected mostly Albanians from Yugoslavia who moved to Albania. My grandfather had to remove the -ic too. Very few Serbo-Montenegrins lived in Albania, after Communism even less.


SpogMotherFucker

Yes but Enver big gay so we albanians don't really wanna have anything to do with him


GoodBoyCody

Is that not actually Sergej Trifunović?


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

Nope, [this is Sergej.](https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/37526173_1682008455181068_1827610353698078720_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=O4GZE1HNVWgAX9mJ60J&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&tp=7&oh=2329315780102069477c80f469c09ebe&oe=5FA8692E)


GoodBoyCody

Oh yeah I see.. they do look similiar. Edit: I know that's Edi but I didn't get the joke at first.


Mrnjavcevic

Interestingly, his face is how we see typical Albanian face, guess we aren't that different huh


itSmellsLikeSnotHere

Albanians come in every phenotype. I've known Albanians who were tanned with black hair, Albanians who were pale with blond hair and blue eyes, and an Albanian who looked like a Native American or something.


SpogMotherFucker

Wow like that isn't for every single country in the world lmao


itSmellsLikeSnotHere

Not as much as in Albania.


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He could be greek as well. I can't tell in any way based on the photo that he is not greek.


Dornanian

Is this related to the meme Albanians have flat heads?


WanaxAndreas

IMHO He definitely looks albanian


Deer_Noises

It's a joke lol, he's Serbian and looks like a Balkan Slav to me. He's a comedian who plays a satirical roleplay of our PM. [Here.](https://www.google.com/search?q=sergej+trifunovic+edi+rama&client=ms-android-samsung-ga-rev1&hl=en&tbm=isch&prmd=inv&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAp_388q7sAhXD_KQKHSZ1B7EQ_AUICygB&biw=412&bih=742&dpr=2.63#imgrc=h7fAqqFwIpHF_M)


WanaxAndreas

I didnt not say that he is,all i said is that if i saw this guy here in Greece i would think he is Albanian.There aren't a lot Serbians in Greece so i have no idea how they look


[deleted]

How can you tell? if you see him in Athens you would assume that he is tourist? I'm not sure about that. He seems Greek to me, literally :p


WanaxAndreas

He may pass as a northern Greek,but northern Greeks are for the most part indistinguishable from other Balkanites. im Athenian of Peloponnesian descent and if i saw this guy on the streets i would assume he is Albanian. Granted i havent seen many Balkan people except Albanians and Bulgarians so i dont have a good judgement.Who knows maybe the similarities i see are dinaric


ELWIZZEY

Damn that man looks so much like a serbian i almost thought his lastname ends with( vic)


Diermeech

Well it's not just about the look, but the whole package - body movements, clothing style, face, facial expression... I can usually spot Albanians really well, sometimes Bosnians but they're harder to spot unless they talk ( but anyway you always hear them first before you see them )


AndreilLimbo

Albanians have a rectangular face and a triangle chin. Turkish people's hair is ultra black and sometimes shiny even without putting gel. Croatians that live by the coast are tanned blonds. The rest will either look like typical ultra white Slavs or same as us(especially the south Bulgarians).


naples_ape

When people tell me be there or be square, they know I'll be late cuz my face is literally a square. /s


[deleted]

Only Albanians, i can't explain how but i just know if someone is Albanian or not.


chetnik_remover

For me it is the head shape🗿and the way they walk.


user-x1

I agree you can tell from the head shape and types of noses


justincaseonlymyself

There are no discernible differences in looks.


Drvonjo

It isn’t..? what about the people from bosnia, they can say that they are croats but their culture, customs, musical taste and even the look of their faces is completely different


justincaseonlymyself

The culture and customs are different to an extent. The claim about the look on their faces is a total nonsense.


Drvonjo

Just try to go to the eastern parts of Zagreb.. you will see


justincaseonlymyself

I lived in the eastern part of Zagreb for three years, and what I saw is that you're talking nonsense.


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justincaseonlymyself

From Biokovo.


balkan-proggramer

Usually an Albanian can tell out an Albanian as a slav can notice a slav after a few years it becomes an instinct


Mrnjavcevic

I don't think south slavs can tell eachother apart solely on looks, heck I myself know Serbs whos looks range from Egyptian Arab to Nordic Viking


[deleted]

The Egyptian Arab ones surely are more arabs/turks than slavs and to be serbian does not mean you are slav. The south slav thing is more propaganda than anything, the majority of us is a dna shake...


Dusan-Lazar

I live in austria, here are a lot of balkan ppl. I can lit. say on the first sight who is which nationality haha


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how?


Dusan-Lazar

on first sight is a bit too much, let's say on first meeting. I can't really explain you but there are a lot of factors. Speaking, pronoucination, look, style, what food they smell like and little things like these. prob. it's very hard if they are born here and the speaking aspect is like real german. for women it's easy you just look at their eyebrows ;)


FlimsyInevitable9

Serbs, North Macedonians, Albanians, Bosniaks, Montenegrins and Bulgarians look pretty Balkan. Romanians look mostly Balkanic with Eastern European vibe . Slovenes and Croats look more Austrian/ West Slavic . Greeks are Wogs.


TheBr33ze

Wtf is a Wog?


[deleted]

Even people from same families look different. So it's hard to tell If you see me you can't guess where i am from. I've big and kinda slanted eyes. Pale skin. Height above average (191cm). Dark Hair, brown eyes. Can't grow face or chest hair. My dad is blonde and average height. He can grow hair in the chest and face. He has light brown eyes. His eye shape is like angry german boss. My mom has dark hair. Really light and beatiful eyes. Olive skin tone. She is short. Her eyebrows like an arrow just beatiful. Her eye shape is like mine or mine isike hers :p And my bro. He has the palest skin you can ever see. We even did some blood test but everything was ok. He looks like a vampire. He has brown like hair. Dark brown eyes and he is tall like me. Most of the people can't tell if i'm my parents son. (DON'T BE DIRTY)


MCOC81

Greeks generally look more 'Mediterranean' and have darker completions than the rest of the Balkans. Yes some Greeks are pale but they are generally the northern 'Balkan' Greeks. Southern/Island Greeks have Mediterranean phenotypes - brown almond shaped eyes & wavy/ curly hair year round wheat/olive skin tone (brown in thr summer). Huge generalisation but from my experience but Slavs generally are white white, have 'squarer' heads, rounder eyes, & straighter fair hair. Perhaps taller than Greeks in general. All 'Balkan' people have differences but also similarities - with Greeks being the most dissimilar from the rest.


Marstan22

Do you mean Balkan Slavs? Man we are in a strange position then, since north Slavs think we are swarthy and southern Europeans think we are too light, but i guess we are there somewhere in the middle.


MCOC81

Yeh I mean Balkan Slavs. I'm from southern Peloponnese so from NMacedonia onwards, you're all 'northern' slavs Balkan to us 😂 very 'white' pale compared to us. Our climate is hot/warm most of the year.


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I guess we can be pretty pale especially on days like today


Tomaz120

I always spot a group of albanians here in slovenia. Small and stocky and thick hair.


EzSkinzEzWinz

No


DrowningAmphibian

Id say you can definitely differentiate, or at least I can. There are slight details that give it away, though they can be minuscule so id imagine it'd be hard to find them as an outsider


Marstan22

Some Austrian guy told me that Serbo-Croato-Bosnians are square headed and tall people.


RandomSerbianGuy

There are stereotypes, but in reality, there is barely a difference... Ik Turks have a certain look that for some reason attracts Serbian women but that's basically it lmao


WaffleButTasty

I don't think that's really possible 乁| ・ 〰 ・ |ㄏ


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johndelopoulos

I will agree about Greeks, but its not just skin color. The whole facial structure of Greeks is southern european, not Balkan. But Albanians? I always have a hard time to distinguish albanian immigrants from other Balkan immigrants, be it serbs vlachs Bulgarians etc


Pepre

Western Balkan have more Dinarids, eastern Balkan more Pontids, soutern more Mediterranids and northern more Alpinids.


itSmellsLikeSnotHere

I can tell Balkan people apart from the rest in Western Europe. Looks are more based on geography than ethnicity in the Balkans. I can't tell Bosnian Muslims, Bosnian Croats, and Bosnian Serbs apart because they look the same. Serbs from Serbia however tend to be more tanned and have longer faces, but even then it's just a generalization and you can't really be sure beyond the "Balkan" umbrella term.


Active-Passive

Albanians are different, I can easily recognize them.


[deleted]

I can tell for sure if someone comes from the Balkans: too much or too poor styling, haircut, behaviour, basically too much or too poor in everything. We are people like a famous song of Zabranjeno pusenje says "ili si bos ili si hadzija". Nothing in the middle. And the head form is kind of specific... i'ts a feeling I have.


mertozbek12

Greek and turkish look like each other . Slavs are looking similar too i think romanians are different


-4-a-

No but we all pretend we can


selennn

Turkish people don’t have a common look. I can tell Greeks apart from other balkans because they have darker complexion on the average but I can’t tell other Balkan people apart. Maybe Serbs too because they are pretty tall?


RealShabanella

Lol I've got a good one about distinguishing ethnicities in Kosovo, my friend lives there (we're both from Serbia). Said friend told me "when you see large heads, that's our guys" whahahahahat


Marstan22

And people always told i have a huge head, guess i'm Serbian as it gets.


Tracer011

Well, to start off Slovenes and Turks are obviously physcially different from everyone else. In real life almost nobody would consider them Balkan anyway. Other than that some Greeks and Croats (northwest, central Croatia and Zagreb) look foreign from my Serbian perspective. Also some Albanians have peculiar-shaped faces you might guess them by. That's about it.


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

Are you sure that [Slovenia](https://www.fiba.basketball/api/img/team/coverimage/5/10766/618/550/418) and [Turkey](https://www.fiba.basketball/api/img/team/coverimage/5/10766/152/550/418) are that much different than the rest of us? Well, except for the Turkish love of mustache that is.


Tracer011

Even in these photos the difference is obvious. The same goes if you compare football, volleyball and whatever kind of sport players, politicians, crowds of protestors, etc. Slovenes are Central Europeans, hardly different from Czechs and Slovaks and Turks are closest to other West Asian populations.


Vucic_je_drugi_Zoran

I don't see the difference, except that Turkish players have facial hair. You could swap any player from one team to another and I wouldn't notice.


Tracer011

Not sure what to tell you. If you have problems distigunishing facial traits and color on a zoomed out photo you can always look at individual people.


M-Rayusa

I can tell, Slovenia : 37, 31,15,8,9 are definitely not Turkish. 1,39,22, 21 easily be Turkish. Others between. Turkey: 8,9 could can easily be Slovenian. 7 has Anatolian look I'd say definitely no Balkan. Rest cant be Slovenian but they can be other Balkaners. Which, i think a lot of them are. So most distinguishable peoples from each other in balkans are Turks and Slovenians but even among them, many look alike.


-4-a-

I can't help but feel like you're trying too hard. All of these people could pass as locals.


RRnn97

In groups, but not individually


mathskov

Maybe it's just coincidence / chance, but I met many Montenegrins who were tall.


itSmellsLikeSnotHere

Isn't Montenegro like one of the tallest nations on earth? >!Is it because they sleep so much? ;D!<


requiem_mn

Its not a coincidence, we tall.


igcsestudent2

There aren't some particular physical differences except that some regions have taller people with longer foreheads and naturally stronger bodies. Turks are probably the only ones who are very easily recongized. I can't explain how, but in most cases I COULD spot if someone is Serb, Croat or Bosniak just looking at the face. For instance, look at the following footballers: -Edin Džeko (Bosniak) -Ivan Rakitić (Croat) -Aleksandar Mitrović (Serb) Each of them has a face look specific to their ethnicity; I personally would never say that Rakitic is a Bosniak as I would also never say that Džeko is a Serb if I didn't know who they are.


emix75

In all honesty not really because the balkans are quite a mixed population in regards to genetics. Some do have distinctive faces but not all. In Romania at least it’s very hard to categorize since there are people ranging from northern looking blue eyed blondes to olive skinned mediterranean types to some with slightly asian features. The most distinctive ethnicity are probably Roma people but even they are mixed and while some do stand out, many do not. You can tell by behavior and in some cases dress. Also for example Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbs, even many coastal Turks pretty much have similar features. Also wherever I go in the area most people start talking to me in their native languages, that should say it all. Also consider that before the current political and cultural divides, ancient populations mixed with newcomers to a large degree. Genetics are pretty similar.


[deleted]

Oh my god, they speak the country's language to you? Oh, the horror.


Pogrom999

If the person is beautiful the he/she is Greek or Albanian everyone else is ugly af /s


RealShabanella

Mila Jovović has entered the chat


FlimsyInevitable9

She is half Russian


Kolikoasdpvp

I can only tell if you are slavic and if you are not or if you are albanian but idk how to tell a diference for romanians and greek ppl


Dornanian

Well Serbs are about as Slavic as us, so that’s a bit tricky :D


NycBx123

I can tell the difference between an Albanian and a Balkan from a mile away ... I don’t know it’s politically incorrect but My parents are from former yugo and my best childhood friend is Albanian. It’s just certain facial features, eye brows, frown, etc... just my two cents


[deleted]

> I can tell the difference between an Albanian and a Balkan from a mile away .. I can tell a United Statesian from a football field away


NycBx123

Niiiiice ... touchdown!!


Takiatlarge

they're all way too hot for me to differentiate them apart


hopopo

Differences are far more obvious when you move out of the country/region. For men I could not tell you what precisely leads me to believe that someone is from Balkans, or particular region. Nose, forehead, height, unusual Adam's apple, posture, walk, etc... It is just one of those things that when you see particular person you simply know. For women it is far easier. As a whole, our women are simply beautiful, no matter if they care about their appearance or not. In my opinion al of them have this unique timeless beauty. I know this sounds corny but it's fucking true.


BigDickEnterprise

My experience only (as a Serb): Note that this applies to younger people only. After a certain age the whole Balkan population looks exactly the same somehow. Romanians -- dark skinned lol. Like no offence but I have genuinely mistaken some of them for gypsies or indians. Albanians -- kinda metrosexual, always sharp haircuts and facial hair, thought out clothing style etc, also they usually look a lot older than they are. Serbs and Bosnians -- tall and well built Bulgarians and Macedonians -- Serbs but shorter, also they tend to have like very rough face shapes, idk how to say it Croats and Slovenians -- the guys are kinda skinny but the girls are hot. Generally the case for western and western-ish countries IMO -- the girls look a LOT better than the guys Greeks and Turks -- total fucking wildcard


itSmellsLikeSnotHere

>Like no offence but I have genuinely mistaken some of them for gypsies or indians. Maybe they were tho? Romanians tend to be pale with dark hair and lighter eyes in my experience.


Dornanian

In the village where I was born, I’d argue that half of us have light eyes at least. It’s also true that I’m from up north


vuki8

You can always recognize a shqip


Alboslav

A little bit off topic, but from what I've seen so far Serbs and Albanians really do come in many different shapes


Marstan22

How? Just curious, what are the differences?


[deleted]

Stereotypically: Albanians: slightly rounded rectangular heads, broad forehead and significant brow ridge, small and narrow almond eyes, long and straight nose, occasionally aquiline. Greeks: Dark complexion. A lot more real estate and stuff going on towards their middle area of the face, larger prominent eyes, big noses. More variant than other countries I'd say. Bulgarians: Dark with buzzcut Serbians: Have their own look but not sure how to describe it, bigger Dinaricized heads like us though.


SuperDragon

My friend (Albanian) told me that they can recognise each other from the face, they have the Albanoface as he called it.


thenart21

Alright my cousin's wedding. Us pomaks vs them albanians: Us: Me: Pomak/Georgian, dark chestnut hair, very dark eyes, darkish skin, face similar to young stalin's but wider My cousin and his bro: My lighter versions basically, slightly thinner longer faces with rounder features also ginger beard. Overall: %70 of people are like me, rest look like east-slavs with their blonde hair and colorful eyes Them: Variety of looks but most prominent is a pale Middle-East/Mediterranean look. Overall they had slightly more pale people, less blondes but more colorful eyes. They had softer features too we looked more "harsh". Conculusion: No I cannot tell the difference between balkan ethnicities unless I really try atleast not the ones in Turkey. And all of my social circle are made up of them. Guess I never developed the eye.


toshu

You're Pomak *and* Georgian? That's quite unique!


thenart21

Actually It's something called "Aren" pronounced "aa-ren" (long a). Everytime I looked up what aren was: 1- Used for Alevi Pomaks and my family has no alevi roots or even traditions. 2- Some not-even-pseudo-scientific bogus relating it to Zoroastrianism! 3- Deriven from "Ahriyan" Ottoman word for christians who convert to escape jizya My guess is my mom's family were either voynuks or martoloses (local christian soldiers of ottoman empire recruited from vlachs and slavs) who were islamized gradually.


toshu

Curious! As a Bulgarian speaker, deriving *aaren* from *ahryan* seems very likely (in a dialect west of the Yat border), and I've heard the word *ahryan* for Rhodope Pomaks.


thenart21

Yep. All the folks in her village are from villages around Rhodopes. Turkish/Ottoman records show that almost everyone are from Sanjak of Drama. I can find villages of almost everyone but not us tho. I tried to look up abandoned villages in Greece but found nothing.


M-Rayusa

Did you do one of those dna tests? Or a close family member?


thenart21

No, it's too expensive.


M-Rayusa

Really? Its just 60 bucks, 50 in Christmas discount days.


thenart21

1 dolar = 7,88 Turkish lira , 1 euro = 9,30 Turkish lira. Numbers speak for themselves. I don't intend to take it until I manage to get paid in dolla bills.


nablachez

Gotta say, Albanians and ex-yu ppl look surprisingly similar (ignoring height difference). Not to mention cuisine, music, and all that. Both groups have ppl with pale skin, light hair, and blue eyes, to tanned skin, black hair, and brown eyes.


Deer_Noises

Albanians from Kosovo aren't that much shorter than ex-Yugo Slavs. The average height in Kosovo is 1.80m. The reason why Albanians from Albania are shorter is because southern Albania drags the average down a lot.


Redon03

GhegSuperiorRace lol


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I can't tell always the difference. Especially between Albanians, Greeks and Turks, many times is really confusing.


professor_snape1

We can do it but can't explain how


HarryDeekolo

I can recognize the albanians. Can't recognize the other balkanites though (but in Italy, where I live, there aren't many people from the balkans except for albanians and romanians)


Mrnjavcevic

I can Albanians apart from others, for the rest, there are few different phenotypes/looks scattered across balkans so pinpointing them is kinda hard


skidadle_gayboi

Personally I can tell an Albanian apart from a Slav and a Greek and Slavs have some small differences from Greeks though I haven't come across many Slavs


stefanos916

I can't tell ethnicities apart, but I can tell ancestry from Western/Eastern Asians, Europeans and Africans apart. But I have heard that some people can do that. But IMO there is not really a significant or a big difference except if I don't know it.


05melo

I can easily tell if someone is Albanian, Greek, Vlach and Bulgarian, for the other ex Yu nationalities it's kinda harder.


LarryTheTrashTalker

Well the countries do have different national wear but people don’t wear that outside


kerelberel

Not really. At my job I discovered 2 Montenegrins, a Croatian and a Bosnian and I only learned that after becoming familiar with them. Not before. There's stereotypical people you can get a good guess on, but that's mostly because of behavior, fashion sense and hair style.


FCbforlife

Yeah I can tell ethnicities in the Balkans apart.


enesbardhi

I am Albanian and I can recognize Albanians from a mile away. Also Bosnian and Serbs are pretty easy to recognize for me.


emix75

Judging by all the contradictory responses, OP should have their question answered. :) White, olive, or brown skin, blonde or brunette hair, blue, green or hazel eyes, tall or short, stocky or thin we are all a varied bunch, divided by culture, language or religion, not genetics. It's a mess, just like our countries, but it's how we like it. <3


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Bulgarians are wide