Ned Kelly's armor. 1880 [800x1272]
By - PissInTheCumBucket
Oh my God I went to read his Wikipedia page and it’s like a 12 chapter book. What an adventure.
I know, it's pretty crazy. makes me want to read a book or watch a movie about him.
There have been many movies, including the first feature length movie ever made. There was even one with Mick Jagger. Maybe try the heath ledger one.
ohh wow. I heard about the original one, but didn't know there was a newer one. do you know what the heath ledger one was called?
It was called...wait for it...Ned Kelly.
Orlando's neckbeard is pretty…yech.
There was even one with Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom, I own it.
You get residuals when it airs? You gotta share with Bloom or the Ledger estate?
The worlds first feature film was about Ned Kelly
While not entirely accurate [The True History of the Kelly Gang](https://youtu.be/BnJim7OK2kM) is visually gorgeous with palpable violence. It's excellent.
This one is great
I found the first half sensational and the second very flat. Overall an enjoyable watch though.
…it was better than CATS
The lead actor said that he'd listen to Gareth Liddard's solo album Strange Tourist to get into character. Which is fucking fantastic because it is so esoteric and yet one of the most incredible albums ever made. The Radicalisation of D is a fucking terrifying song for just a man and his acoustic guitar playing a single note.
Just picked it up off your recommendation, killer!
I have read complete police statements that aren’t as detailed as any one of those entries. How the hell did his stories survive this long with such detail?? It’s almost unbelievable.
Edit: I know it wasn’t that long ago. I understand papers existed. I’m saying the amount of detail is impressive, for each step of the story. Especially considering there are a lot of things since then that have turned up missing or are incomplete. And considering up until today I’ve never heard of this person. So for such an elaborate, detailed story, it’s impressive. That’s all.
it seems he was a folk hero, so everyone wanted to know and tell about him.
He definitely is. It's not uncommon for people to have stickers on their cars, typically an Australian flag with the helmet from this armor set with a quote saying "such is life".
Tattoos are very common too, atleast in Sydney and surrounding suburbs.
Folk hero.. So probably stories full of half truths, exaggerated truths, truths and lies.
Usually the case with tales of folk heroes. Still interesting though.
For some reason he's seen as a desperate man forced into doing bad things.
He was a murderous horse thief. We had Bushrangers that were a lot cooler, but the last stand of the Kelly gang was somewhat more exciting than the usual "tracked down and shot/hanged".
Thats perhaps a very English viewpoint. The other side of the story was that his family and friends were somewhat supressed by the protestant ruling class and did what they did as an act of defiance.
Bollocks. I'm an Australian, and Kelly was murderous bully and the only people trying to make a hero out of him is the rump of the Irish immigrant crim class who are prone to mythomania wherever in the world they end up.
Im a subscriber. So suck my mick arse.
Dere's dat Oirish charm de whole world has come to love.
140-150 years ago isn't that long. My house is 120 years old.
Newspapers, journalists, telegraph, photography etc all existed in 1880 when he died. Records from then often survive and in great detail.
I found a load of scrunched up newspaper under my floorboards from 1882 which was in surprisingly good condition. I guess it was preserved by the steady basement temperatures.
In countries like the UK and France it is easy to find newspapers and pamphlets back to the 17th Century in national archives. As well as costumes and clothing in the V&A museum going back 500 years.
It was just the late XIX century, that's like almost yesterday in history.
"Survive this long"? It was the later 1800s, not the 17th century!
He was like Billy the Kid or Jesse James. But, like, with cooler armor.
Heath ledger played an excellent Ned Kelly.
The only movie worth watching is Reckless Kelly featuring Yahoo Serious.
Monty Python and the holy grail was about the suit if not about its carrier!
While not a book or a movie, I'll be happy to give a shout-out to my favorite podcast, *The Dollop*, for [doing an episode on Ned Kelly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON9GdoLWuV0)
My grandfather used to use the phrase "Raising ol' Ned" for someone creating a violent disturbance.
Those headshots must have been deafening
I can't even imagine the tinnitus after each hit.
Well he didn't have to deal with it for very long at least.
All of those shots must have been like hammer strikes.
And you know that big dent in the abdomen hurt like a motherfucker
Got his bell rung a few times…
This is from the State Library in Melbourne. It’s my favourite place so I’ve seen good old ned a bunch of times. The library recently underwent massive renovations and now Ned has his own room! In this picture he is positioned on one of the balconies/hallways in the ‘Dome Room’ before the changes (If you look for a picture of the room the balconies will make more sense). Made me smile seeing this on my feed and thought I’d share a little about it. Thanks OP!
The death cast of his face minus his beard makes him look very small and sad. He was no Heath Ledger. I remember feeling sorry for him having his dead squashy little face displayed alongside the legendary armour.
But the letters they have there show him as a highly intelligent and articulate person with a ~~pretty justified~~ sense of rage at the corrupt systems there. I had always assumed he was a moron cause of the violent lifestyle but he definitely wasn’t.
He murdered three police and was planning to derail a train and kill many more, along with a bunch of civilians. Not sure if that is justified by his experiences with the system.
I said his rage was justified, not all the murdering
Not sure if it's that easy to separate his rage with the actions it ultimately resulted in.
I'd also add that if you think his anger was the result of a corrupt system you haven't read Kelly history too deeply. He was a violent man who lived a violent life and his two years or so on the run was caused by the participation of the Kelly family in large scale horse stealing and a single incident in which an attempt was made to arrest some members of the family. It's probable the behaviour of the officer involved (Fitzpatrick) was less than desirable, but ultimately the story of Kelly is the story of a violent criminal held a deep resentment against being held to account by justice.
Of course it's "easy to separate his rage with the actions it ultimately resulted in"
One is a sentiment and the other is an action. It's easy as heck.
But I see what you're saying and after actually reading a little about it (I'm not Australian and I've seen little about the guy except a lot of bogan bumper stickers and few minutes looking at the things in the State Library) it becomes pretty clear he was not a good person. I love the idea of Robin Hood style outlaws in the old west and the Australian colonial era so it's a bit of a bummer to realise that it's not some noble Hollywood thing in reality.
Even combing through the letter there are lots of phrases equivalent to "How dare they call me a murdered/How dare civilians take up arms against me...I could annihilate them, that would teach them a lesson" like even 130 years later and with the flowery language used it's clear that a real prick is behind that sentiment.
Not to be that guy, but violence against a corrupt monarchical state is kinda justified. The British Empire back then makes North Korea look like a utopia.
Second that about the State Library. A beautiful place.
His poor naked legs!
thats how the cops managed to take him down
After hours of shooting - right?
Wasn’t it that they needed so long until they were able to hit his leg?
Shins grow back, right?
Ask Cotton Hill
He ain't gots no shins
He killed fiddy men!
*No zey don’t*
That’s actually how they got him
They could dislodge the other boot from his enemies arse
I dunno, the one missing boot is really darkly funny
I love how the rivets at the front kind of look like buttons.
Yes, I'm building a metal killing outfit, but damn it I want to look dapper.
That pan-covered son of a bitch back at the bank don't hardly fight fair, in my opinion.
An open field! NED!
Go find the breastplate stretcher. Now!
BESSIE AND HER TITS!
You ever make the Eight, Barristan?
Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind...
Can he walk at all
Or if he moves will he fall?
> Although no bullets actually penetrated through the armour, each bullet to Ned's helmet caused massive bruising, lacerations and disorienting concussion
Didn’t he rob a bank?
He was caught with stolen horses, livestock, murdered a policeman, was the leader of a criminal gang and basically a career criminal with a violent streak.
and surprisingly, he had the most beautiful cursive handwriting
no that was his friend Joe Burns I believe. Ned just dictated.
Ahh, I see. Cheers
Aaand that's what made him an Aussie folk hero. When you start as a prison island, it's really not too surprising.
Lol it was 150 years ago, I don't know why people get so passionate talking about it. Were your ancestors Kennedy, Scanlan or Lonigan? Or do you just dislike the idolisation of the Kelly's? It's not like the colony of Victoria's police were innocent in the whole saga.
By the way, how do you feel about Jewish people ? I saw a pretty strange post about Bernie sanders with some sort of propaganda picture
Wow. That's some pretty disturbing anti semitism.
Oh well they deleted it now, or it got removed via a report
He asked what he did. I honestly couldn’t care less about the guy or what did.
Idolizing criminals of any type just means someone needs some good counseling in my opinion but it doesn’t stop people from doing it.
harriet tubman is my idol. do I need counseling? to help me find a more legal hero, like slave holders? The holocaust was legal too, and those who sheltered jews, gays, trans, roma, disabled etc were criminals.
Never trust the law and order types.
Mate you don’t know much about Ned Kelly if your take is that he was a common criminal.
Police were racist violent thugs and the man was as much an actual rebel against the state as he was a criminal.
Agree outright hating every “criminal” is wrong but Ned Kelly was a thief and murderer. He fought the law and that’s about it. Didn’t fight fascism or slavery or anything else.
Not much different from the American outlaw gangs of the time.
He did fight British racism against Irish.
Woah calm down. Did someone shut on your hero ?
Did someone SHUT
He robbed a place in NSW because they thought he was only terrorising Victoria. Little shits
What in tin pan hell is going on here?
Ned suited up for the final shootout with the cops here in Australia.
He didn’t actually die, he was injured, taken to gaol in Melbourne, before being hung
Hanged twice, first time didn't do the trick
Ah, the ol' neck armour
So... he did die.
Well he’s sort of immortalised in the form of tattoos on Bogans everywhere
you mean patriots right?
“most usage guides reserve hanged for people subjected to death, which means if an inanimate object is suspended from a gallows, the correct term is hung.”
Ned Kelly was subjected to death by hanging.
However, according to Webster’s dictionary, yes WEBSTER
Both can be used, however, saying he is to be hanged to death is correct BUT he was HUNG from the gallows.
Mate, we only use the Oxford dictionary 'round here.
Its dwarves dammit.
This was funnier than it should have been.:.
Fucking crazy some of the shit you got sent to Australia for back then.
The British sent so many men to prison camps in Australia, they would eventually be released but had very little hope of making it back to Ireland or wherever they had been plucked from. They settled there, but there weren't any (white) women for them to settle with, the country was in dire need of females so the British in their infinite wisdom and compassion rounded up 4000 orphaned Irish girls from workhouses at the end of The Great Hunger in 1848 (i refuse to call it a famine) and shipped them off to Australia to help populate the colony, to work in domestic roles and to serve as wives, most were from the west of Ireland and spoke only Irish. The scheme served a dual purpose for the British who saw these girls as a burden and of little use in Ireland. Of course they didn't have it easy and these children, who has already suffered through unimaginable hunger and loss were often exploited and abused, and treated as less than human by the upper classes of Australia.
[more info on the Earl Grey scheme](https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/the-story-of-the-irish-famine-orphan-girls-shipped-to-australia-1.4075722)
Just one boot?
Yeah - saves you from starting off on the wrong foot.
Ahhhh... this guy right here. :)
There’s a guy with an armor like that in RDR2.
The Black Knight!
That’s the first thing I thought of too!
Tis but a scratch!
Edit: someone beat me to it :(
I was completely ecstatic when I saw this in person. I've read about Ned Kelly as a very young kid and seeing this brought me back.
The ol' infamous One Boot Kelly.
“Such is life”
I didn't even know his armor was preserved in a museum and IDK why I haven't looked into that sooner. Probably the most legendary and effective case of truly bullet-resistant armor in the 19th Century. If anyone knows of other combat proven examples around the time please share with me.
‘Tis but a scratch!
Tis just a flesh wound
Someone get this guy a 2nd bucket
Farewell my home in Greta, oh my sisters fare thee well…
Tis but a flesh wound!
How can his armor stop bullets but medieval armor cant? Can someone explain?
The armour was made from ploughshares, which are very thick. Even so, you can see the distortion made from direct hits.
Some medieval armour did stop bullets (from the type of firearms used at the time) and most rennaissance armor stopped musket bullets (atleast in the chestplate).
Then why plate armor went out of favor? I always thought because it couldnt protect the wearer from muskets.
Changing tactics, it was also cheaper to just arm 100000 men with just a musket and bullets with a bayonet than armor and different types of weapons and everything. Still, some cavalry did use breastplates well into the 19th century that could to some extent stop bullets of the muskets of the time (although if I'm not mistaken this was more protection against swords and shrapnel).
His looks *much* thicker and would also be almost worthless against bayonets, spears and swords.
How can a thick metal be worthless agains those? I dont get it. Its a thicker breastplate.
It will definitely stop all of those so not totally worthless. It is way too open and too heavy to move around in properly so it's easy for an opponent to just stab you someplace else.
Very cool post, u/PissInTheCumBucket ! Very cool post indeed.
This has a very "Tis' but a scratch" vibes
They were strong warriors in the old days
Another victim of rich men and their minions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly
>Ned Kelly (December 1854 – 11 November 1880) was an Australian bushranger, outlaw, gang leader and convicted police-murderer. One of the last bushrangers, he is known for wearing a suit of bulletproof armour during his final shootout with the police. Kelly was born in the then-British colony of Victoria as the third of eight children to Irish parents. His father, a transported convict, died shortly after serving a six-month prison sentence, leaving Kelly, then aged 12, as the eldest male of the household.
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Damn harassed by the police and state since he was 12 no wonder he was so disillusioned with the whole damn process and stayed in a life of crime.
Obviously potentially harming innocents ain't good, but hell this is a perfect example of the effect the prison system and state have on poor people
\*Reads about a man who willingly began his own criminal career by choosing to ally himself with a known convict and bandit despite having a clean record himself, robbing many innocent civilians (who were also struggling) and murdering people along the way to his eventual execution because he was a blight upon society\* What a victim, I can't believe he was magically forced into a life of violent crime even though numerous of his neighbors chose not to do the same!
Many Irish people were beaten, robbed and killed by the police during this period.
You obviously have no idea how anything works.
This was a man who fought back when shit upon. Try reading a book.
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Our favorite bar in Rome when I studied there was called Ned Kelly’s. There was always such a great mix of people there on any given night.
Ned Kelly is a hero
He was kinda a piece of shit
Kinda both, in a weird sense. He's been cemented as a folklore legend; a modern-day Robin Hood who stood up against the cops and Govt that gave him and his family unfair treatment their whole lives. On the other hand he aimed to kill as many cops as he could with that train plan, and clearly thought all of them deserved it. It's been told as a clear black-and-white story but history would show that it isn't that simple.
Still debated whether he was a hero or a villain. Still more popular than a lot of people
Read his story. Practically a Robin Hood
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'Tis but a scratch.
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I had no idea this was based off of a true story. https://tygame.fandom.com/wiki/Neddy
Russel crow starred in one also I believe
If he only had a heart!
Im sorry but your name took all my attention i couldnt see the picture properly