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hazardzetforward

Isle of Paradise tanning drops work great for the face. While I am a strong advocate of sun protection 99.9% of the time, feeling a little warmth and sunshine is good for your mental health and soul (but still wear your sunscreen). I grew up close to the Canadian border and 7+ months of cold, grey, snowy weather can also negatively impact your health.


summersalwaysbest

Second Isle of Paradise. It works great.


jennifer8j8

Does it have that gross fake tanner smell?


svdbsvdb

I think it kind of does. I rinse it off in the am and it’s fine. St tropez has better smelling drops but they don’t work as well. I just add a few drops (of isle of paradise) nightly to my moisturizer.


jennifer8j8

I was afraid of this. I've bought so many that supposedly don't smell bad and when I put it on it still smells awful - St. Tropez didn't smell as bad but I didn't think it worked well either. Thanks for the input.


hazardzetforward

I find IoP has the least offensive fake tanner smell. Unfortunately that odor comes from the ingredient that makes fake tanner a fake tanner, so it's hard to avoid.


summersalwaysbest

I don’t think so. I put a drop or two in my moisturizer when I want my face a little tanner.


nionvox

Thirding. I would also advise starting with one drop and seeing how you like the effects first though, it goes a LONG way


Nicole_Bitchie

Off-topic, but I bought a light therapy lamp from Amazon to help with the seasonal depression that comes from living in a grey winter climate. It was a big help. I turn it on for 30-45 min in the AM during the winter.


hazardzetforward

Yes those are helpful!


AwkwardFartNoise

I'm really interested in ordering one. Do you happen to have a link or would you recommend the lamp you use?


Nicole_Bitchie

Verilux HappyLight 10,000 is what you want to search for. The one I bought is a large older model and they have newer compact models now.


AwkwardFartNoise

Thank you!!


Lucky-Ad4443

I saw one at Costco, I thought a out trying it but then remembered I live in the sunniest city in Canada and then decided not to spend money on it lol but I actually always wonder if they work. Especially cause my work office has no windows so I don't see the sun when I'm working really ..hmmm


Kikie3

Right? As soon as spring comes I’m crawling outside to feel the sun on my skin. 😂


Rich-Door8875

Would vouch for Isle of Paradise


lnsewn12

Ok so I live in Florida and I use sunscreen daily all over… 55+ on my face and 30+ on my body. During the summer I’m really active outdoors and do what I can to protect myself, but I still get sun exposure. I still tan with religious application of sunscreen to body and face. I try to wear hats but honestly they’re too damn hot so I take them off a lot. I never have a huge noticeable difference in the color of my face vs skin. And YESSSSSS I know that tanning is damage. I am fully fucking aware, however, I am not going to cower in the shade for fear of getting a wrinkle or sun spot. Swimming, snorkeling, boogie boarding, fishing, tubing, water slides etc are all way too fun.


mtndesertrunner

Right? I love sunshine. I’ll put on sunscreen and be mindful, but for me, I’d rather live and enjoy some sunshine while I’m alive than avoid it like the plague just to avoid some wrinkles. Someday on my deathbed, I think I’d regret not enjoying the sunshine with my kids more than regretting a few extra wrinkles.


thepeskynorth

Sunscreen doesn’t prevent tanning (according to a nursing student i worker with) tanning is the skins own defence so I would think if you are using sunscreen you’re still ok. ETA: look it up guys. No sunscreen is 100% effective. I guess I should have clarified that you won’t tan as much but unless you are in shade and covering yourself from the sun sunscreen alone isn’t enough.


Radjehuty

If your sunscreen is broad spectrum, it does prevent tanning. It won't do a great job if you're relying entirely on sunscreen but by design, anything that blocks UVA will prevent tanning.


NWmoose

Sun will age your skin, it just depends if that is worth it for you personally. You could always try self tanner or use more sunscreen on your body to keep a more cohesive color.


NorthwestFeral

Everyone has a different idea of what "safe" means I always get down voted for expressing this, but I believe some sun is good for us. I live in a place that gets very little sun throughout the year so it's hard for me to overdo it. During the precious summer months I do wear sunscreen on my face, chest, and shoulders, but I'm not obsessive about it and I like to get a tan.


Kikie3

Ok same. I’m in Canada so we only get sun for like 4 months out of the year.. sometimes I just like to be cozy in the sun. 😂 but I always wear sun screen all over my body/face… I just didn’t know if that’s still considered bad.


NorthwestFeral

I live just over the border from Canada near Vancouver. Sun is like a precious gift! Obviously there are people on here who will tell you to never let the sun get on your skin. It's up to you though. The other thing to consider is UV rays do come through the clouds. I get my skin checked for possible cancer every year just in case. Get some hats you really like if you want to prevent aging on your face. I've gotten really into cool hats. My fave is the Tentree festival hat.


Kikie3

Ok great. Thanks! I hit 32 and now all the sudden I’m like yeeeeesh I need to start wearing sun screen more often. It just makes me sad to think I need to hide from the sun forever. 😂


Trickycoolj

Hey us PNW folk have a high rate of skin cancer probably because we revel in those precious few months we can finally be outside. And our tendency towards snow sports above the clouds in the winter.


kspfel

I’m Canadian as well and firmly believe I will be mad at myself in 50 years if I never let myself in the sun due to potential aging. It’s corny but you’ll regret the things you didn’t do more than the things you did (and yes that also includes not putting on sunscreen) 😊


Broutythecat

Hun, I'm Italian and people literally spend the whole summer sprawled on the beach trying to get as tan as possible. Yes, maybe they'll get wrinkles a bit earlier. But the wrinkles are coming no matter what and italians are imho generally a fairly good looking bunch, so it's not that tragic. Sure, protect your skin, but there's no need to obsess about it and eschew sunshine forever. We're all going to grow old and wrinkly no matter what.


RedRedBettie

Some of us are prone to skin cancer. It’s not all about aging the skin


CatnipandSkooma

Yeah I was going to say, I'm of Maltese ancestry and I've already had a few suspicious moles removed. Sunscreen is important.


Trickycoolj

This. That get tan as possibly laying out in the backyard from 14-21 got me several mole biopsies and a go back for clear margins on a pre-cancerous one by my early 30s.


RedRedBettie

Yeah I’m dealing with some issues with suspicious moles right now, it sucks


Trickycoolj

Best of luck! I liked Nextcare bandaids to keep the biopsy sites covered but I still have dark purple scars on the small of my back and butt. My GP is always asking “what happened here?” When she sees them in my physicals and I’m like I got in a knife fight with your colleagues in dermatology.


hazel_hazily

Good point, you have to take location into account too. I just make sure I have sunscreen on during midday hours when UV is above 3 and call it a day.


No-Requirement7370

There are actually studies that show sun exposure is very beneficial and decreases your risk of death. Here's a video from MedCram where it explains. [https://youtu.be/5YV\_iKnzDRg?t=4862](https://youtu.be/5YV_iKnzDRg?t=4862)


Any_Mathematician936

Exactly. I used to live in Idaho and I could feel the effect of the sun leaving right away. It was a day and night difference!


hazel_hazily

Yeah, I'm fairly sure you can get fake tan meant for the face.


Kikie3

Good to know. This is something I’ve never explored lol


MadameMonk

St Tropez express tanner (foam, with a mitt) has been the most successful for me. I’m quite pale. It’s one of the only ‘non orange’ based ones and at least you take it off in under 2hrs. All of them smell yuk and feel yuk, so don’t bother scouring the shelves for one that doesn’t. Just go with a quick one. I take it down to my décolletage and arms, then on my lower legs if I don’t have time for the full enchilada. It’s subtle enough that I don’t get clear lines even when I do that lazy thing!


Kikie3

I’ll look into this, thanks!


sunnyrainphase

I was going to recommend St Tropez too. It really is the best!


yellingjayna

I used Il Makiage’s sun foam self tanner recently and love it. I’m pretty fair and it really just looks like I spent a day in the sun, not orange at all, just warm. It is my first time using self tanner and I wish I had sooner!


Evie_Rose11

I personally use either St Tropez self tan face mist (you just spray your face and that’s it) or Isle of Paradise drops (you mix some drops with your moisturiser) Easy to use and it gives you a very natural glowing tan!


fulanita_de_tal

I use the drops but hadn’t heard about the mist! Which do you like better?


Evie_Rose11

The mist is easier and quicker but you have more control with the drops! I honestly couldn’t choose, I love both


dixiemason

Do you prep your face with any skincare before? Rub it in with your hands at all?


Evie_Rose11

The mist I apply it 10-15 min or so after having done my night skincare routine and no you don’t rub it in or have to touch your face in any way! Apparently, it also works over makeup but I have never tried The drops, I use the medium bottle. I mix them with my night moisturiser and just apply it in my face


Clean_Ad_5282

Ehh, you only live once and aging is normal and ok. It's okay to age as a woman. We can't be 40 and have no wrinkles, impossible. I tan in the sun for a few days out of the whole year and feel pretty sun-kissed. Self tanner is an option too if you are really concern about it


Short-Anxiety-1508

Not only wrinkles are a concern with sun exposure, skin cancer is a really big concern. Skin check yearly is a good idea. But hey, it’s your body. Be well


Intelligent-Fuel-641

It's entirely possible to be over 40 with no wrinkles, and silly to pretend otherwise. Genetics plays a big role.


Clean_Ad_5282

Your skin ages with time and it's normal. Idky you're being offended for.


Intelligent-Fuel-641

I wasn't offended. I pointed out that it's silly to pretend that every single person wrinkles by 40 when that is clearly not true.


ilikeoldpeople

Zero wrinkles at 40 without Botox?


RedRedBettie

A lot of women don’t have wrinkles at 40, I didn’t and I’ve never had Botox or filler


ilikeoldpeople

That’s awesome, good for you! I’m 30 and still wrinkle-free but most of my friends have some gentle crows feet or forehead lines. I figured mine are just around the corner. Guess we’ll see :) I’m not afraid of wrinkles either way


RedRedBettie

I’m a few years older now and def have crow’s feet and all that!


Intelligent-Fuel-641

Same. Neither did either of my grandmothers. Two of my aunts who were dedicated tanners, smokers, and alcoholics made up for it.


Just_Lawyer451

You can absolutely easily have no wrinkles at 40, unfortunately wrinkles are not the thing that ages you! It’s facial changes like fat dispossition, muscle and bone loss which causes sagging and other facial changes that will make you look your age.


fulanita_de_tal

I use Isle of Paradise tanning drops mixed in with my moisturizer. I tan my body in the sun (which I really need to stop) but I do not under any circumstances allow my face to get color. Color = sun damage, whether it’s a tan or a burn.


Kikie3

Thanks for this!! Seems like these drops are the general consensus in my comments 😂🤎


bathshebat

Try to get sun in the early morning for that vit. D, the rays are less harmful. Wearing a physical sunscreen when you are outside of course protects the skin. Avoid prolonged exposure to intense midday sun. Don't waste your life worrying about being outside occasionally we all get wrinkles eventually. Just some basic precautions work wonders and if you want a tan fake tanner is much better these days than it used to be.


Electric-Fun

I let my body tan with spf 30 lotion and use St. Tropez face mist on my face all summer long. I wear hats, sunglasses and spf 75 at all times.


RedRedBettie

Any tan is damaging your face and aging your skin. I use Tanologist tanning drops for my face


Snoi7

I keep my face totally out of the sun- sunscreen, hat, sit under an umbrella. I really don’t want sun spots and wrinkles! My face is always several shades lighter than my body, so I use a little sunless tanner and I match my makeup to my body instead of my face.


Kikie3

That’s good advice, thanks!


Kind_Manufacturer_97

The sun does the same damage to your body. It's cumulative and most don't notice until older. It's part of aging.


Middle-Obligation134

Sun is good in moderation. You likely won’t get tan with the amount recommended 10 mins low UV index so early morning and around sunset no more than 10 minutes during the day. Granted the act/function of your skin changing color from the sun is that it recognize damage and chameleon to protect this tanning. Sun damage will hasten wrinkling/premature aging and can lead to cancer as you’ve already mentioned being aware. I’m in the camp of early moderate early morning exposure and late afternoon as it is also good for your sleep cycle but not for tanning. Everyone’s risk tolerance is different it’s up to you and what you choose to do. If cancer and preventing aging is firm boundary then answer is probably zero lol but if you say you know what I want some sun cuz life’s happier with it then it’s safe early morning and late night but know that there are risk. Anytime middle of the day when UV index is medium to high is likely harmful.


LibertasNeco

I wish I could too. Grew up by the border as well so I know exactly this feeling. But self tanner is nearly useless with tretonin which I'm on because your skin turns over fasttttt


Theekje

I don't just use sunscreen on my face, but I also do my body. This way there isn't do much of a colour difference. For your skin, there is no safe way to tan. It's always a compromise. If you really don't want to risk it, you could try a fake tan or my personal favourite = the carotenoid tan. I make sure I eat at least 400g of vegetables in all kinds of colours daily. A few times a week, I slow-juice some carrot, spinach, red beats and cucumber. You won't look like you've been on the beach for weeks, but still.. The colour-improvements are real and healthy. Don't take tanning supplements, these are often not healthy. As an exception, I have liked astaxanthin, but the good stuff is very expensive and astaxanthin on its own is not nearly as good as a mix of vegetables.


Lunaescentskin

According to Dr. Dray no tan is ever safe! 😫


KatieNumber80

I use, and really like, St Tropez tanning drops! Got it from Sephora.


SoggyBread-_

I’m a fair skinned reddish blond haired person living in LA. I’ve gotten used to the sun and wearing sunscreen. I love it out here compared to my home state of Ohio. But…I am a moley person. My mom is moley living in Ohio. I was moley in Ohio. Being in LA is a whole new level. I’ve been noticing a ton of white moles on my arms and legs. More than I’ve ever seen before. Why are they white? I have dark moles as well. And most of my moles are irregular, but skin exams haven’t shown them to be cancerous. The white moles scare me though because I don’t see many people with them


Short-Anxiety-1508

Fake tanning lotion/sprays/powder/drops. Try and error, try a few and look which one is suited to you. Remember that wrinkles and aging aren’t the only concern with extreme sun exposure.


Oli99uk

A tan is sun damage. There is no safe tan. Not my opinion, that's taken from a dermatologist that works with albinism. I can link if people ask nicely. Cant be bothered right now


Kikie3

For sure. I guess I’ve just noticed I still tan on my face/body even when I wear sun screen. Which is what confuses me. If I have sun screen on is that a safe tan or is it still bad to tan AT ALL.


Oli99uk

Yes. The tanning is a reaction to damage. Most sunscreens are broad spectrum and will have a mix of ingredients- some are less stable and degrade in 30-90 minutes, others last longer. Physical barriers are better where possible, like clothes, hats, sunglasses. All that said, I'll be on holiday soon and will get lightly tanned. It's not going to kill me. It's not good for me but neither is this bottle of red wine that I'm drinking. Some info on this insta channel, not specifically this video reel https://www.instagram.com/reel/CgGvHs5DApP/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=


Kikie3

Thank you!


Short-Anxiety-1508

Sunscreen have to be reapplied during the day, the spf number in the bottle usually means the minutes you have until your next application. If you don’t reapply you are left without protection. That’s why some people still tan after using sunscreen.


Zadoraa

It’s absolutely ridiculous to think people can “avoid the sun at all times”. Just wear sunscreen on your face before you go outside. And it’s best to wear it on your body but don’t beat yourself up over it. If you find a hat that you like that goes with what you’re doing then cool that helps but a little sun is healthy. I can’t be bothered to slather on sunscreen all day especially because I usually wear a full face of makeup regularly. I also am chasing around a little toddler 99% of the time. They make powdered sunscreen you can use over makeup too.


Kikie3

That’s honestly been one of my biggest thoughts. How do I reapply it over a face of full makeup?! Like what? 🥴


sugar-titts

I buy makeup that has sunscreen in it. I don't reapply every two hours, how are people doing that?


darkly_nought

There are SPF sprays and powders you can reapply over makeup. I use a SunBum Face Mist and a SuperGoop SPF powder when I have to reapply throughout the day.


Proper-Emu1558

I use self tanner if I want to get a bit of color in my face. Otherwise I wear sunscreen and a hat. You’ve got to live your life but just take reasonable precautions.


Any_Mathematician936

I don’t know much of what can be done for this but sun is quite important for the skin. Production of vitamin D is huge boost in mental health, bone health etc. Now why I’m quite wary of sunscreen everywhere in my body is because sunscreen (at least physical one) has been found in studies that not only stops the UV rays penetrating your skin, but also stops production of vitamin D. Yes you can get vitamin D in other ways but the sun is the best one. So yeah wear your sunscreen on your face but also don’t be afraid of getting some sun because it is REALLY good for your overall health.


TSquaredRecovers

Easy way to fix the disparity between the tan body and white face: Use bronzing drops. I use b. tan’s face bronzing drops mixed in with moisturizer, and it works like a charm. Just mix like 4 or drops in and spread it evenly over your face.


w1gw4m

All tan is skin damage. The darkening of the skin is your skin's desperate attempt to protect itself against UV damage.


Jannalikebanana

There is some evidence to suggest that taking beta carotene pills or eating lots of carrots can give a hint of pigment into the skin if you're already quite pale


MarshmallowNap

Sunless tanner!


mtndesertrunner

I use Paula’s Choice concentrated tanning drops and add it to my moisturizer a few times a week.